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What would truely make XMPP stick and be a killer app, would be if enterprise interoperability could be shown between apps like Microsoft Teams, Slack, and Disc
by brunes 5y ago
What would truely make XMPP stick and be a killer app, would be if enterprise interoperability could be shown between apps like Microsoft Teams, Slack, and Discord. The amount of friction that enterprise consumers like myself have to deal with because none of these things interoperate is immense. Making them interoperate at a basic level via XMPP does not seem like it would be overly challenging.
- possiblelion 5y agoHave you looked at Mio? https://youtu.be/0mAXRUgJtgg https://youtu.be/0mAXRUgJtgg Basically does what you're talking about
- loremipsium 5y agothe technical challenge, or lack thereof, is not the reason why it's not done I suppose.
- Gigachad 5y agoIt has been done. Chat apps once did work together and you had multi client apps that would connect to everything. Then they slowly died off and became discontinued because people don't actually care that much about having multiple chat apps. Thanks to modern push notification services, you can receive messages from all IM services without having to have those apps actually running.
- smoldesu 5y agoYou're looking for Matrix. XMPP wants nothing to do with 'enterprise' apps that rely on potentially backdoored encryption standards. The people who care enough to enable OMEMO on their chats aren't going to do so with the intention of undermining their communique for a slightly better level of compatibility.
- VWWHFSfQ 5y agobut what if they don't want to interoperate with each other
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- syntaxfree 5y agoIdea: market interoperability as a metaverse thing.
- stock_toaster 5y agoOnce upon a time, google chat (neé gchat) _was_ that killer app. For a brief time there was glorious federated communication between several IM vendors, self hosted open source servers, and gchat. Then google killed it all by dropping xmpp/jabber support in gchat, and others soon followed.
- e12e 5y agoI don't think there ever was federation support? Or maybe you were an earlier adopter than me, and talk of a time before they killed federation?
- syntaxfree 5y agoAt one point with Apple’s Continuity I had Gchat, Facebook messenger and SMS on a single window in my MacBook.
- e12e 5y agoYes, but with only a single xmpp account, that federated access to gchat, fb?
- stock_toaster 5y agoYes, at one point I ran my own prosody jabber/xmpp server and regularly chatted through it with friends who were gchat users. Even had presence (idle , busy, etc) support! It worked amazingly. First they killed federation, then they killed xmpp support entirely.
- spystath 5y agoTeams, Slack and Discord don't want to talk to each other. They want their own silo with their own users. XMPP, Matrix, or anything, for that matter, can't fix that.
- BlueTemplar 5y agoReminds me how Slack killed off their IRC bridge...