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Shouldn't this have content in Catalan to qualify for a .cat domain?

by thirtyseven 5y ago

solarkraft 5y ago
I think this rule has been softened. I’ve seen a bunch of sites with this TLD and no (discernible) catalan content.
- sodality2 5y ago
  For example: https://bongo.cat/ https://bongo.cat/
  - jimkleiber 5y ago
    Love it! Also it has a translate to Catalan in the bottom left corner.
there 5y ago
The non-user-generated content is returned in Catalan if your browser's language is set to it.
Laremere 5y ago
Afaik, it's up to the country to determine the rules for the tld. Some require strict rules (eg, .us requires making public a current mailing address, something making me consider getting rid of mine as I don't want that so public), and others (eg, .io and .fm) simply use it as a way to make some money.
- sp332 5y ago
  Yes, and that is the rule for .cat domains. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.cat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.cat
  - tephra 5y ago
    To be accurate it is not that you have to have content in Catalan (although that seems to be the _main_ purpose of the sponsored TLD) but you have to "be a part of the Catalan Linguistic and Cultural Community" as set forth in the registry agreement between ICANN and domini.cat [0] [0] (go to specification 12) https://itp.cdn.icann.org/en/files/registry-agreements/cat/cat-agmt-html-08oct15-en.htm https://itp.cdn.icann.org/en/files/registry-agreements/cat/c...
muniperez 5y ago
https://let.cat https://let.cat :) you only need to have one page in Catalan https://let.cat/Landing/Catalan https://let.cat/Landing/Catalan
- tdeck 5y ago
  That's a pretty pathetic offering (a copy of the Wikipedia article about Catalonia in Catalan). They could have at least tried to pick something the reader wouldn't already know about.
  - slx26 5y ago
    Yeah, I'm from catalonia and I'm ambivalent about this kind of usage. On the one hand, you have some meme sites that are cool, but are often just "exploiting" the tld to make for a nicer url. Aesthetics. As a hacker, it doesn't seem a problem at all... but then you have to consider the cultural issues too: catalonia is not that big, with 7.5M population. Should we consider the "inappropriate" use of .cat domains as a form of cultural appropriation? Might seem a bit exaggerated, but it's not a ridiculous question to ask oneself. That being said, fundació.cat is allowing the sites to exist and doesn't seem to care that much either about what's going on in their domains (I sent them an email once asking for a list of all / the_most_popular .cat sites to find sites in catalonia worth promoting, and they don't even have that kind of information available), so if they don't care themselves, what can lowly citizens even ask for.
    - 0des 5y ago
      All angles of this conversation have been considered in the license that was assigned to that content.
      - tdeck 5y ago
        The objection isn't to using content from Wikipedia, the objection is that .cat websites are supposed to include Catalan content and this one chose to satisfy that requirement in the laziest and least interesting way possible. Why not pull from an article about something actually interesting and relevant to the site at least, rather than a couple intro paragraphs in Catalan about the place where most speakers of that language already live? It's not a huge deal but it seems like a missed opportunity.
im_dario 5y ago
It actually has content in Catalan. "Crear compte" and "Iniciar sessió" are Catalan for "Create account" and "Log in". Edit: fix typo and now I realize these texts are returned according to the browser's locale. I'm Catalan, so that's why I see them in Catalan :)

Shouldn't this have content in Catalan to qualify for a .cat domain?

solarkraft 5y ago

I think this rule has been softened. I’ve seen a bunch of sites with this TLD and no (discernible) catalan content.

sodality2 5y ago
For example: https://bongo.cat/ https://bongo.cat/
- jimkleiber 5y ago
  Love it! Also it has a translate to Catalan in the bottom left corner.

there 5y ago

The non-user-generated content is returned in Catalan if your browser's language is set to it.

Laremere 5y ago

Afaik, it's up to the country to determine the rules for the tld. Some require strict rules (eg, .us requires making public a current mailing address, something making me consider getting rid of mine as I don't want that so public), and others (eg, .io and .fm) simply use it as a way to make some money.

sp332 5y ago
Yes, and that is the rule for .cat domains. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.cat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.cat
- tephra 5y ago
  To be accurate it is not that you have to have content in Catalan (although that seems to be the _main_ purpose of the sponsored TLD) but you have to "be a part of the Catalan Linguistic and Cultural Community" as set forth in the registry agreement between ICANN and domini.cat [0] [0] (go to specification 12) https://itp.cdn.icann.org/en/files/registry-agreements/cat/cat-agmt-html-08oct15-en.htm https://itp.cdn.icann.org/en/files/registry-agreements/cat/c...

muniperez 5y ago

https://let.cat https://let.cat :) you only need to have one page in Catalan https://let.cat/Landing/Catalan https://let.cat/Landing/Catalan

tdeck 5y ago
That's a pretty pathetic offering (a copy of the Wikipedia article about Catalonia in Catalan). They could have at least tried to pick something the reader wouldn't already know about.
- slx26 5y ago
  Yeah, I'm from catalonia and I'm ambivalent about this kind of usage. On the one hand, you have some meme sites that are cool, but are often just "exploiting" the tld to make for a nicer url. Aesthetics. As a hacker, it doesn't seem a problem at all... but then you have to consider the cultural issues too: catalonia is not that big, with 7.5M population. Should we consider the "inappropriate" use of .cat domains as a form of cultural appropriation? Might seem a bit exaggerated, but it's not a ridiculous question to ask oneself. That being said, fundació.cat is allowing the sites to exist and doesn't seem to care that much either about what's going on in their domains (I sent them an email once asking for a list of all / the_most_popular .cat sites to find sites in catalonia worth promoting, and they don't even have that kind of information available), so if they don't care themselves, what can lowly citizens even ask for.
  - 0des 5y ago
    All angles of this conversation have been considered in the license that was assigned to that content.
    - tdeck 5y ago
      The objection isn't to using content from Wikipedia, the objection is that .cat websites are supposed to include Catalan content and this one chose to satisfy that requirement in the laziest and least interesting way possible. Why not pull from an article about something actually interesting and relevant to the site at least, rather than a couple intro paragraphs in Catalan about the place where most speakers of that language already live? It's not a huge deal but it seems like a missed opportunity.

im_dario 5y ago

It actually has content in Catalan. "Crear compte" and "Iniciar sessió" are Catalan for "Create account" and "Log in". Edit: fix typo and now I realize these texts are returned according to the browser's locale. I'm Catalan, so that's why I see them in Catalan :)