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This is addressed in the article: “…the panel found that the building was completely safe, and the settlement had not compromised its ability to withstand stron

This is addressed in the article: “…the panel found that the building was completely safe, and the settlement had not compromised its ability to withstand strong earthquakes.”

kingkawn 5y ago
We’ll see Someone confidently modeled the original construction too
- tjr225 5y ago
  And it sounds like they were pretty much right on if it is still safe, no?
  - chii 5y ago
    remains to be seen if it is indeed safe. What other factors did they forget to include in the model? It's an unknown unknown, and doing an inquiry after the building's collapse is no comfort for those who lost value, or even lives if it were to happen.
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    - tjr225 5y ago
      You could say that about anything. The pros here are saying it is safe, and they said the same thing before.
  - organsnyder 5y ago
    Except presumably the initial modeling concluded that the building would not settle more than allowed by code, which we now know was not accurate.
mcguire 5y ago
"However, they cautioned that the movement hadn’t stopped, and further tilting may affect the building’s safety."
fshbbdssbbgdd 5y ago
So some people screwed up a long time ago on the initial design because they didn’t take into account the possible impact of neighboring projects. Ok, geotechnical engineering gets a mulligan on that one. Later, thoroughly on notice that things were screwed up, they designed a solution to fix the problem. But they couldn’t predict that the vibrations from drilling would cause more sinking. Now we’re supposed to believe they can accurately predict what the vibrations of an earthquake will do? If this building is a pile of rubble, somewhere geotechnical engineers will be saying that it couldn’t possibly be predicted. Here’s hoping the big one doesn’t hit while this exciting experiment in foundation installation is ongoing!
coolso 5y ago
Didn’t the engineers also find that it would only sink a few inches, but it ended up sinking over a foot in a fraction of the time?

This is addressed in the article: “…the panel found that the building was completely safe, and the settlement had not compromised its ability to withstand strong earthquakes.”

kingkawn 5y ago

We’ll see Someone confidently modeled the original construction too

tjr225 5y ago
And it sounds like they were pretty much right on if it is still safe, no?
- chii 5y ago
  remains to be seen if it is indeed safe. What other factors did they forget to include in the model? It's an unknown unknown, and doing an inquiry after the building's collapse is no comfort for those who lost value, or even lives if it were to happen.
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  - tjr225 5y ago
    You could say that about anything. The pros here are saying it is safe, and they said the same thing before.
- organsnyder 5y ago
  Except presumably the initial modeling concluded that the building would not settle more than allowed by code, which we now know was not accurate.

mcguire 5y ago

"However, they cautioned that the movement hadn’t stopped, and further tilting may affect the building’s safety."

fshbbdssbbgdd 5y ago

So some people screwed up a long time ago on the initial design because they didn’t take into account the possible impact of neighboring projects. Ok, geotechnical engineering gets a mulligan on that one. Later, thoroughly on notice that things were screwed up, they designed a solution to fix the problem. But they couldn’t predict that the vibrations from drilling would cause more sinking. Now we’re supposed to believe they can accurately predict what the vibrations of an earthquake will do? If this building is a pile of rubble, somewhere geotechnical engineers will be saying that it couldn’t possibly be predicted. Here’s hoping the big one doesn’t hit while this exciting experiment in foundation installation is ongoing!

coolso 5y ago

Didn’t the engineers also find that it would only sink a few inches, but it ended up sinking over a foot in a fraction of the time?