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I'm in Burnaby. It was really rainy and windy for a couple days, but I haven't been meaningfully impacted so far. For sure it was a major storm with some majo

I'm in Burnaby. It was really rainy and windy for a couple days, but I haven't been meaningfully impacted so far. For sure it was a major storm with some major impacts, but I think most people in the lower mainland weren't severely impacted.

cf100clunk 5y ago
If you mean for just today for someone in a less-impacted area of the Lower Mainland, that's an acceptable if minimalist answer, but saying "most people" is very problematic in the light of a huge amount of evidence from primary sources.
iainctduncan 5y ago
I guess they haven't read yet on how damaged the supply chain is going to be then. This is not "we'll fix it up in a few weeks" road damage, it's more like major shipping roads in BC are going to be affected for through the worst of the winter here.
- lhorie 5y ago
  To be fair, I just found out about this literally from the link at the top of this page, a couple of hours ago. Not exactly enough time to become an expert in supply chain logistics in a province I don't even live in. I'm reading now that there's already some stress due to displacements from the Lytton fire earlier this year, and displacements from Abbotsford, Merritt, etc are not gonna help the situation. I'm still trying to piece together the wider scope of the incident and don't yet have a good sense of what the overall damage looks like (though it increasingly looks like it isn't merely "a few key bridges happened to have flooded, it'll be fine once the water recedes" and it's more like "there are several landslides blocking roads along the route to Calgary and we're gonna be scrambling to staff the clean up efforts in time for winter"). On the one hand, you just need enough room for a truck to pass through, dirt road carved by a tractor as it might be, in order to establish a supply line. On the other hand, given that some communities barely only ever had that in the first place, I imagine many might need to figure out plan B arrangements.
  - iainctduncan 5y ago
    Look, it's not "roads blocked". We're not talking "move the dirt and it'll be ok". The roads are GONE. Bridges and huge sections of the most important highways are now rubble floating down rivers with nothing there anymore. This is in some of the most difficult terrain to rebuild in that you could have. People who know what they are talking about are saying we are short highways through the winter. Here's some chopper footage: https://twitter.com/RobinMonks/status/1460690606410194949 https://twitter.com/RobinMonks/status/1460690606410194949 City folks who think this was just some rain are nothing but evidence of how disconnected city people can become from the infrastructure on which they depend.
    - lhorie 5y ago
      Oh wow, that's crazy. Thanks for sharing that.
    - swader999 5y ago
      That section in the Twitter link can be fixed fast is what I'm thinking but then I remember that B.C. is heavily unionized and my optimism fades.
      - TheOtherHobbes 5y ago
        How you managed to convert devastating footage of washed away bridges and roads into an attack on unionisation is something future historians are going to have to work very hard to explain.
        swader999 5y ago
        If you lived there you'd understand. It's a common theme.
        Kluny 5y ago
        A constant theme among people who like to overwork and underpay their employees, yes.

cf100clunk 5y ago

If you mean for just today for someone in a less-impacted area of the Lower Mainland, that's an acceptable if minimalist answer, but saying "most people" is very problematic in the light of a huge amount of evidence from primary sources.

iainctduncan 5y ago

I guess they haven't read yet on how damaged the supply chain is going to be then. This is not "we'll fix it up in a few weeks" road damage, it's more like major shipping roads in BC are going to be affected for through the worst of the winter here.

lhorie 5y ago
To be fair, I just found out about this literally from the link at the top of this page, a couple of hours ago. Not exactly enough time to become an expert in supply chain logistics in a province I don't even live in. I'm reading now that there's already some stress due to displacements from the Lytton fire earlier this year, and displacements from Abbotsford, Merritt, etc are not gonna help the situation. I'm still trying to piece together the wider scope of the incident and don't yet have a good sense of what the overall damage looks like (though it increasingly looks like it isn't merely "a few key bridges happened to have flooded, it'll be fine once the water recedes" and it's more like "there are several landslides blocking roads along the route to Calgary and we're gonna be scrambling to staff the clean up efforts in time for winter"). On the one hand, you just need enough room for a truck to pass through, dirt road carved by a tractor as it might be, in order to establish a supply line. On the other hand, given that some communities barely only ever had that in the first place, I imagine many might need to figure out plan B arrangements.
- iainctduncan 5y ago
  Look, it's not "roads blocked". We're not talking "move the dirt and it'll be ok". The roads are GONE. Bridges and huge sections of the most important highways are now rubble floating down rivers with nothing there anymore. This is in some of the most difficult terrain to rebuild in that you could have. People who know what they are talking about are saying we are short highways through the winter. Here's some chopper footage: https://twitter.com/RobinMonks/status/1460690606410194949 https://twitter.com/RobinMonks/status/1460690606410194949 City folks who think this was just some rain are nothing but evidence of how disconnected city people can become from the infrastructure on which they depend.
  - lhorie 5y ago
    Oh wow, that's crazy. Thanks for sharing that.
  - swader999 5y ago
    That section in the Twitter link can be fixed fast is what I'm thinking but then I remember that B.C. is heavily unionized and my optimism fades.
    - TheOtherHobbes 5y ago
      How you managed to convert devastating footage of washed away bridges and roads into an attack on unionisation is something future historians are going to have to work very hard to explain.
      - swader999 5y ago
        If you lived there you'd understand. It's a common theme.
        Kluny 5y ago
        A constant theme among people who like to overwork and underpay their employees, yes.