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YouTube Dislikes Viewer

86 points by tfsh 5y ago

vehemenz 5y ago
I'm sure this was brought up in the previous thread, but who is relying on the YouTube demographic to inform their opinion of a video's quality? I've been using YouTube for years and never gave a second thought to likes/dislikes. If the content is good, I'll keep watching. If not, I move on. Why not just watch for ten seconds and decide for yourself? If likes actually meant anything, then the YouTube front page wouldn't be a microcosm of cultural decline.
- Anechoic 5y ago
  In the case of an entertainment video, I agree. In the case of an instructional video, it can really be frustrating to watch 10-20 minutes of something before realizing that the maker did it wrong, didn't document it adequately etc. Those videos tend to have a high ratio of dislikes to likes and that can easily prevent one from wasting their time. I've been doing a lot of home renovations this past summer and watching instructional videos to help guide me. There's a lot of trash out there and it's not always immediately obvious as so without watching for a decent chunk of time. Conversely, there are a lot of videos with low-production values that are highly useful, so judging alone based on ten seconds can be misleading.
  - foxfluff 5y ago
    Same goes for e.g. car repair stuff and even some solutions people post to weird software issues. There are lots and lots of very niche videos posted by normal people who aren't professional "youtubers" and really just want to help someone out and document things they've done. Video quality, editing, etc. can be crappy, but the information within can be just what you need. Unfortunately there are also lots of absolute trash videos that sort of claim to show you what you need but in the end they don't. Same format. You can't tell which is which before you watch, unless you see that at least half of the thumbs are down in which case it's probably a trash video.
  - ItsMonkk 5y ago
    It's so obvious what the real solution is now that you have laid it out like this. Your use-case was never best fit through YouTube. Doing so was always harmful to getting the job done, it's just even worse now. Your use-case was always best fit through the Home Improvement/DIY StackExchange site[0], where an answer is a link to a YouTube video. You can then easily compare different videos, comment and dislike them, and the best videos for that use-case would get to the top of the page. This may very well be a repeat of Digg 4.0. If we can get the word out that everyone should move their queries from asking YouTube to asking StackExchange, the entire space can be improved over-night. It's all already waiting for us. [0]: https://diy.stackexchange.com/ https://diy.stackexchange.com/
- josefx 5y ago
  I used it to skip through howto self repair videos for some damaged hardware I had. Faster than watching every video in the hope that one will be useful and I have come across some troll videos that will show you the fastest way to completely fry your phone, etc. .
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  I suspect YouTube’s algorithms aren’t really even using the like/dislike very much. Like you said, if you like something you’ll keep watching it…
nothrowaways 5y ago
If YouTube removes dislike YouTube should also remove likes. Otherwise it will be misleading the community. Imagine you got 11M dislike and 10K likes. Without without likes obviously people will be mislead.
- blensor 5y ago
  Well not really. If a system does not have dislikes then people will find other metrics to evaluate what's good. For example Likes/Views ratio. If a video has 1M views but 1000 likes I can most likely ignore it If a video has 1500 views but 1000 likes now that's something I should be looking at
  - gzer0 5y ago
    If the ratio was this high, I would assume it has been artificially inflated.
- thebeefytaco 5y ago
  I'm pretty sure that's the point.
- dylan604 5y ago
  Why do people hit Like anyways? Enjoy the content, leave a comment. If the creator actually reads comments, a positive comment in lieu of a Like will have much more benefit to the creater. Except maybe for what ever ulterior algo purposes YT has for these metrics.
  - zebracanevra 5y ago
    I use the Like button because it adds the video into the private "Liked" playlist. Handy, one click, good workflow.
  - mgalgs 5y ago
    I hit like to signal to other viewers (not the creator) that I think the content is good.
mc32 5y ago
It’s interesting to note that the cofounder of YT Jawed Karim thinks removing the visibility of dislikes is a “stupid idea”.
- dylan604 5y ago
  Why is it any more interesting than any of the other thousands of people that dislike the idea of hiding dislikes?
  - TedShiller 5y ago
    are you having a bad day? sorry :/
  - BitwiseFool 5y ago
    >"Why is it any more interesting than any of the other thousands of people that dislike the idea of hiding dislikes?" Because it's from the co-founder of YouTube? Surely that gives their opinion more weight and notability than the Average Joe/Jane online?
    - mavhc 5y ago
      Not like he's worked there for a decade though, the problems of social scale aren't something he's had to deal with
    - dylan604 5y ago
      Woz wanted an open hardware platform. He co-created Apple, but got silenced by his co-founder. Yeah, and, so, what? Just because a co-founder has an opinion just means another person with an opinion. What is this co-founder's current position at YT? "When the site was introduced in February 2005, Karim agreed not to be an employee and simply be an informal adviser, and that he was focusing on his studies."--wikipedia So, not very influential. Again, it's just another person's opinion. * Also from wiki: "In November of 2021, Jawed updated the description of "Me at the zoo" to "When every YouTuber agrees that removing dislikes is a stupid idea, it probably is. Try again, YouTube ".
causality0 5y ago
So is this not on the chrome web store because he anticipates Google banning it or for another reason?
- dylan604 5y ago
  "Currently I don't want to upload it to Chrome web Store because I will have to pay a 5$ fees and there is a high chance google will reject this extension." In case clicking the link is just too hard /s
ezconnect 5y ago
I can still see dislikes on YT, is it just regional?
- BitwiseFool 5y ago
  I can see dislikes on one of my PC's but not the other. It might be cookie related.
- ravenstine 5y ago
  It's classic A/B testing in action. A lot of controversial anti/feature roll-outs on YouTube either take months or years to be applied to my account or never happen, and I have a hunch it's because they know I'm the type to openly bad-mouth those changes or reduce my usage of YT.
  - dymk 5y ago
    It’s random. They don’t care what you have to say. Biasing the rollout would defeat the point of the A/B
  - ezconnect 5y ago
    Youtube is massive, I think their basic unit of measure is millions. One vote wont affect their statistics.
umvi 5y ago
Couldn't we just use ratio of overall views to likes? Videos that are highly disliked won't have a good views/likes ratio compared to a video that is highly liked. Also, RIP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ
- d0gsg0w00f 5y ago
  Because then someone (e.g., YT or advertisers) would use this as a monetization KPI and then creators would get punished for users not hitting the like button when they fell asleep and YT auto-played 37 videos overnight.
  - dylan604 5y ago
    How does this happen? I can't get it to complete 1 "full album playlist" without it pausing with a pop-up asking if I'm still watching.
    - d0gsg0w00f 5y ago
      Maybe because I pay for no ads YT? Best decision I ever made.
      - dylan604 5y ago
        I use blockers, best decision I ever made. However, ads have nothing to do with YT not wanting to waste bandwidth by streaming 24/7 if nobody is viewing it. Netflix does it (the first I noticed doing it), Amazon does it. I'm assuming HBOMax will get to it.
- lolpython 5y ago
  I don't think so, because some videos have high numbers of views with low numbers of likes and dislikes.
- chaorace 5y ago
  I had a very similar thought! Much of the discourse around the removal of visible dislikes revolves around lost utility. Finding another way to provide similar utility value feels like a highly palatable solution to me. I'm not exactly a Google-tier product designer, so I have to imagine such a proposal has already been seriously considered... Perhaps they're waiting for the dust to settle before trying other approaches? In any case, the idea is not necessarily novel in the social media space. I recently learned that Twitter has a similar strategy for discerning content quality: the ratio[1]. It's not something that's explicitly exposed to users as a statistic, but it's basically just one step away. [1]: https://eclincher.com/your-tweet-got-ratioed-what-next/ https://eclincher.com/your-tweet-got-ratioed-what-next/
wingerlang 5y ago
Am I the only one who has never paid any attention to likes/dislikes?
- mavhc 5y ago
  Only if you've never watched a video because it was suggested to you
- post_break 5y ago
  You must not have used YouTube to try to fix anything. Usually there are dozens of results, with a handful that are flat out wrong or dangerous.
  - wingerlang 5y ago
    Does software isssues count? Then I use it all the time and generally I just check the top voted comments.
LegitShady 5y ago
What is needed is an extension that provides a separate upvote/downvote system and its own comment system with better forum like tools than YouTube provides. Rather than just begging to see YouTube's historical dislikes use it as a start to completely replace YouTube's manipulated and untrustworthy under video section. You could have it in a window beside the YouTube video or in its own box below and just move on from YouTube comments and dislike control. In the long run it sounds like something better that could pressure YouTube to improve their own meagre and useless comment system.
- Minor49er 5y ago
  I've seen projects before that take this a step further and let people leave comments on any site on the web for other users of the same project to see. Unfortunately, they don't see a lot of adoption. But there always seems to be a small crowd ready at any time to try out one of these projects.
  - LegitShady 5y ago
    This dislike backlash might be a good impetus to get a lot of people into an alternate system
  - monetus 5y ago
    Any notable ones you would care to mention? I'm picturing disqus implemented as a browser extension; I'm just curious.
    - LegitShady 5y ago
      I imagine a better than Disqus system - something with better forum like tools that make the YouTube comments section look bad in comparison. YouTube videos can get thousands of views and their system or disqus' isn't really built to handle search, discovery, etc etc.
    - Minor49er 5y ago
      None that really come to mind, unfortunately. There was one called Fanbrowser that used to do this briefly a very long time ago, but that project has been torn down and rebuilt from scratch so many times that none of that functionality is left. One iteration of it let you browse through a directory of interests (sourced from the DMOZ). When you found a site, or if you typed in a URL, it would load that page in an iframe. You could bookmark pages and leave comments which other users would be able to see. Unfortunately, it didn't get much further than that, so it never had things like being able to follow other users or anything else. Plus, iframes became increasingly difficult to work with since web browsers started adopting a lot of privacy and security measures like CORS. But for a brief while, it was fun.
gtirloni 5y ago
YouTube staff seems to be running out of ideas on how to improve their service. That's when you start trying things that most people would consider stupid.
- syshum 5y ago
  I disagree, it is not matter of running out of idea's it is that YouTube does not desire to be YouTube anymore. They want to be CorpTube. Allowing just anyone to upload videos is $$$$ and the vast majority of content I assume likely does not do very well for ads. They are putting their efforts behind attempting to be another Over the Top cable services plus a clearing house for Corporate media "Clips" and redistribution.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
  Death by a thousand meetings and not wanting to shut down Janets lame ideas again...
- Aaargh20318 5y ago
  They aren't trying to improve their service, they are trying to make it more profitable. Huge difference.
- thepangolino 5y ago
  Allow me to be Devil's advocate here. There seem to be a general push along social media platforms to remove visible statistics about engagement. Instagram reming likes, reddit hiding upvote/downvote count, etc. There has to be some data about how this actually increases engagement.
- mschuster91 5y ago
  > That's when you start trying things that most people would consider stupid. YouTube (as well as Facebook and Instagram, and to a lesser extent Twitter) are under considerable pressure by media and activist groups to combat trolling, hate speech and mental health effects. Organized "dislike" raids are one of the most annoying things on the Internet - even right here on HN, there are somewhat regular complaints about people wading through entire pages of an user's comments just to downvote them. Reddit is orders of magnitude worse.
thrdbndndn 5y ago
I don't get how it works. If YouTube removed dislike display and API, how exactly does it get the data? (The source code isn't helpful since it just pulls the number from author's server.)
- fredzel 5y ago
  They did not remove API yet. I believe they intend to remove it sometime in December, after they complete rollout of removing dislike counter globally
  - thrdbndndn 5y ago
    Ok, that explains how it works for now. Still not sure what the "we will do something even better" (after the removal of official API on disliking) part means in the following statement: >Hey there, I have just checked the Youtube's official change-logs and it seems that they will stop providing dislikes in the youtube Data API. That's why I am launching an archiving API that will allow anyone to see dislikes of any videos. This package will keep logging number of dislikes of any video and feed it to the API. In future, we will do something even better!
    - jaywalk 5y ago
      I'd imagine the plugin will end up morphing into a dislike button, so users of the plugin will be able to dislike a video and see the dislikes from other users.
    - spoiler 5y ago
      I think it means they'll use the latest dislike snapshot from the API , and after that they'll start summing up new dislikes themselves.
samstave 5y ago
I dont watch enough content on YT that would require I care about the up/down - heck - I have been on reddit for 15 years and I also dont care about voting there as well... But removing this ability to see sentiment toward a vid (irrespective of gamification of such) is a stupid idea.
rektide 5y ago
There's such an interesting p2p search problem here, once YouTube does remove the API endpoint too. What would or could we do to share our votes among ourselves? IMO one small step towards corporatism/away from democracy for youtube, one huge hallmark event showing which way the winds are blowing.
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vxNsr 5y ago
I was hoping someone would do this.
drcongo 5y ago
YouTube dislikes all viewers.
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86 points by tfsh 5y ago

I'm sure this was brought up in the previous thread, but who is relying on the YouTube demographic to inform their opinion of a video's quality? I've been using YouTube for years and never gave a second thought to likes/dislikes. If the content is good, I'll keep watching. If not, I move on. Why not just watch for ten seconds and decide for yourself? If likes actually meant anything, then the YouTube front page wouldn't be a microcosm of cultural decline.

Anechoic 5y ago
In the case of an entertainment video, I agree. In the case of an instructional video, it can really be frustrating to watch 10-20 minutes of something before realizing that the maker did it wrong, didn't document it adequately etc. Those videos tend to have a high ratio of dislikes to likes and that can easily prevent one from wasting their time. I've been doing a lot of home renovations this past summer and watching instructional videos to help guide me. There's a lot of trash out there and it's not always immediately obvious as so without watching for a decent chunk of time. Conversely, there are a lot of videos with low-production values that are highly useful, so judging alone based on ten seconds can be misleading.
- foxfluff 5y ago
  Same goes for e.g. car repair stuff and even some solutions people post to weird software issues. There are lots and lots of very niche videos posted by normal people who aren't professional "youtubers" and really just want to help someone out and document things they've done. Video quality, editing, etc. can be crappy, but the information within can be just what you need. Unfortunately there are also lots of absolute trash videos that sort of claim to show you what you need but in the end they don't. Same format. You can't tell which is which before you watch, unless you see that at least half of the thumbs are down in which case it's probably a trash video.
- ItsMonkk 5y ago
  It's so obvious what the real solution is now that you have laid it out like this. Your use-case was never best fit through YouTube. Doing so was always harmful to getting the job done, it's just even worse now. Your use-case was always best fit through the Home Improvement/DIY StackExchange site[0], where an answer is a link to a YouTube video. You can then easily compare different videos, comment and dislike them, and the best videos for that use-case would get to the top of the page. This may very well be a repeat of Digg 4.0. If we can get the word out that everyone should move their queries from asking YouTube to asking StackExchange, the entire space can be improved over-night. It's all already waiting for us. [0]: https://diy.stackexchange.com/ https://diy.stackexchange.com/
josefx 5y ago
I used it to skip through howto self repair videos for some damaged hardware I had. Faster than watching every video in the hope that one will be useful and I have come across some troll videos that will show you the fastest way to completely fry your phone, etc. .
spookthesunset 5y ago
I suspect YouTube’s algorithms aren’t really even using the like/dislike very much. Like you said, if you like something you’ll keep watching it…

nothrowaways 5y ago

If YouTube removes dislike YouTube should also remove likes. Otherwise it will be misleading the community. Imagine you got 11M dislike and 10K likes. Without without likes obviously people will be mislead.

blensor 5y ago
Well not really. If a system does not have dislikes then people will find other metrics to evaluate what's good. For example Likes/Views ratio. If a video has 1M views but 1000 likes I can most likely ignore it If a video has 1500 views but 1000 likes now that's something I should be looking at
- gzer0 5y ago
  If the ratio was this high, I would assume it has been artificially inflated.
thebeefytaco 5y ago
I'm pretty sure that's the point.
dylan604 5y ago
Why do people hit Like anyways? Enjoy the content, leave a comment. If the creator actually reads comments, a positive comment in lieu of a Like will have much more benefit to the creater. Except maybe for what ever ulterior algo purposes YT has for these metrics.
- zebracanevra 5y ago
  I use the Like button because it adds the video into the private "Liked" playlist. Handy, one click, good workflow.
- mgalgs 5y ago
  I hit like to signal to other viewers (not the creator) that I think the content is good.

mc32 5y ago

It’s interesting to note that the cofounder of YT Jawed Karim thinks removing the visibility of dislikes is a “stupid idea”.

dylan604 5y ago
Why is it any more interesting than any of the other thousands of people that dislike the idea of hiding dislikes?
- TedShiller 5y ago
  are you having a bad day? sorry :/
- BitwiseFool 5y ago
  >"Why is it any more interesting than any of the other thousands of people that dislike the idea of hiding dislikes?" Because it's from the co-founder of YouTube? Surely that gives their opinion more weight and notability than the Average Joe/Jane online?
  - mavhc 5y ago
    Not like he's worked there for a decade though, the problems of social scale aren't something he's had to deal with
  - dylan604 5y ago
    Woz wanted an open hardware platform. He co-created Apple, but got silenced by his co-founder. Yeah, and, so, what? Just because a co-founder has an opinion just means another person with an opinion. What is this co-founder's current position at YT? "When the site was introduced in February 2005, Karim agreed not to be an employee and simply be an informal adviser, and that he was focusing on his studies."--wikipedia So, not very influential. Again, it's just another person's opinion. * Also from wiki: "In November of 2021, Jawed updated the description of "Me at the zoo" to "When every YouTuber agrees that removing dislikes is a stupid idea, it probably is. Try again, YouTube ".

causality0 5y ago

So is this not on the chrome web store because he anticipates Google banning it or for another reason?

dylan604 5y ago
"Currently I don't want to upload it to Chrome web Store because I will have to pay a 5$ fees and there is a high chance google will reject this extension." In case clicking the link is just too hard /s

ezconnect 5y ago

I can still see dislikes on YT, is it just regional?

BitwiseFool 5y ago
I can see dislikes on one of my PC's but not the other. It might be cookie related.
ravenstine 5y ago
It's classic A/B testing in action. A lot of controversial anti/feature roll-outs on YouTube either take months or years to be applied to my account or never happen, and I have a hunch it's because they know I'm the type to openly bad-mouth those changes or reduce my usage of YT.
- dymk 5y ago
  It’s random. They don’t care what you have to say. Biasing the rollout would defeat the point of the A/B
- ezconnect 5y ago
  Youtube is massive, I think their basic unit of measure is millions. One vote wont affect their statistics.

umvi 5y ago

Couldn't we just use ratio of overall views to likes? Videos that are highly disliked won't have a good views/likes ratio compared to a video that is highly liked. Also, RIP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ussCHoQttyQ

d0gsg0w00f 5y ago
Because then someone (e.g., YT or advertisers) would use this as a monetization KPI and then creators would get punished for users not hitting the like button when they fell asleep and YT auto-played 37 videos overnight.
- dylan604 5y ago
  How does this happen? I can't get it to complete 1 "full album playlist" without it pausing with a pop-up asking if I'm still watching.
  - d0gsg0w00f 5y ago
    Maybe because I pay for no ads YT? Best decision I ever made.
    - dylan604 5y ago
      I use blockers, best decision I ever made. However, ads have nothing to do with YT not wanting to waste bandwidth by streaming 24/7 if nobody is viewing it. Netflix does it (the first I noticed doing it), Amazon does it. I'm assuming HBOMax will get to it.
lolpython 5y ago
I don't think so, because some videos have high numbers of views with low numbers of likes and dislikes.
chaorace 5y ago
I had a very similar thought! Much of the discourse around the removal of visible dislikes revolves around lost utility. Finding another way to provide similar utility value feels like a highly palatable solution to me. I'm not exactly a Google-tier product designer, so I have to imagine such a proposal has already been seriously considered... Perhaps they're waiting for the dust to settle before trying other approaches? In any case, the idea is not necessarily novel in the social media space. I recently learned that Twitter has a similar strategy for discerning content quality: the ratio[1]. It's not something that's explicitly exposed to users as a statistic, but it's basically just one step away. [1]: https://eclincher.com/your-tweet-got-ratioed-what-next/ https://eclincher.com/your-tweet-got-ratioed-what-next/

wingerlang 5y ago

Am I the only one who has never paid any attention to likes/dislikes?

mavhc 5y ago
Only if you've never watched a video because it was suggested to you
post_break 5y ago
You must not have used YouTube to try to fix anything. Usually there are dozens of results, with a handful that are flat out wrong or dangerous.
- wingerlang 5y ago
  Does software isssues count? Then I use it all the time and generally I just check the top voted comments.

LegitShady 5y ago

What is needed is an extension that provides a separate upvote/downvote system and its own comment system with better forum like tools than YouTube provides. Rather than just begging to see YouTube's historical dislikes use it as a start to completely replace YouTube's manipulated and untrustworthy under video section. You could have it in a window beside the YouTube video or in its own box below and just move on from YouTube comments and dislike control. In the long run it sounds like something better that could pressure YouTube to improve their own meagre and useless comment system.

Minor49er 5y ago
I've seen projects before that take this a step further and let people leave comments on any site on the web for other users of the same project to see. Unfortunately, they don't see a lot of adoption. But there always seems to be a small crowd ready at any time to try out one of these projects.
- LegitShady 5y ago
  This dislike backlash might be a good impetus to get a lot of people into an alternate system
- monetus 5y ago
  Any notable ones you would care to mention? I'm picturing disqus implemented as a browser extension; I'm just curious.
  - LegitShady 5y ago
    I imagine a better than Disqus system - something with better forum like tools that make the YouTube comments section look bad in comparison. YouTube videos can get thousands of views and their system or disqus' isn't really built to handle search, discovery, etc etc.
  - Minor49er 5y ago
    None that really come to mind, unfortunately. There was one called Fanbrowser that used to do this briefly a very long time ago, but that project has been torn down and rebuilt from scratch so many times that none of that functionality is left. One iteration of it let you browse through a directory of interests (sourced from the DMOZ). When you found a site, or if you typed in a URL, it would load that page in an iframe. You could bookmark pages and leave comments which other users would be able to see. Unfortunately, it didn't get much further than that, so it never had things like being able to follow other users or anything else. Plus, iframes became increasingly difficult to work with since web browsers started adopting a lot of privacy and security measures like CORS. But for a brief while, it was fun.

gtirloni 5y ago

YouTube staff seems to be running out of ideas on how to improve their service. That's when you start trying things that most people would consider stupid.

syshum 5y ago
I disagree, it is not matter of running out of idea's it is that YouTube does not desire to be YouTube anymore. They want to be CorpTube. Allowing just anyone to upload videos is $$$$ and the vast majority of content I assume likely does not do very well for ads. They are putting their efforts behind attempting to be another Over the Top cable services plus a clearing house for Corporate media "Clips" and redistribution.
MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
Death by a thousand meetings and not wanting to shut down Janets lame ideas again...
Aaargh20318 5y ago
They aren't trying to improve their service, they are trying to make it more profitable. Huge difference.
thepangolino 5y ago
Allow me to be Devil's advocate here. There seem to be a general push along social media platforms to remove visible statistics about engagement. Instagram reming likes, reddit hiding upvote/downvote count, etc. There has to be some data about how this actually increases engagement.
mschuster91 5y ago
> That's when you start trying things that most people would consider stupid. YouTube (as well as Facebook and Instagram, and to a lesser extent Twitter) are under considerable pressure by media and activist groups to combat trolling, hate speech and mental health effects. Organized "dislike" raids are one of the most annoying things on the Internet - even right here on HN, there are somewhat regular complaints about people wading through entire pages of an user's comments just to downvote them. Reddit is orders of magnitude worse.

thrdbndndn 5y ago

I don't get how it works. If YouTube removed dislike display and API, how exactly does it get the data? (The source code isn't helpful since it just pulls the number from author's server.)

fredzel 5y ago
They did not remove API yet. I believe they intend to remove it sometime in December, after they complete rollout of removing dislike counter globally
- thrdbndndn 5y ago
  Ok, that explains how it works for now. Still not sure what the "we will do something even better" (after the removal of official API on disliking) part means in the following statement: >Hey there, I have just checked the Youtube's official change-logs and it seems that they will stop providing dislikes in the youtube Data API. That's why I am launching an archiving API that will allow anyone to see dislikes of any videos. This package will keep logging number of dislikes of any video and feed it to the API. In future, we will do something even better!
  - jaywalk 5y ago
    I'd imagine the plugin will end up morphing into a dislike button, so users of the plugin will be able to dislike a video and see the dislikes from other users.
  - spoiler 5y ago
    I think it means they'll use the latest dislike snapshot from the API , and after that they'll start summing up new dislikes themselves.

samstave 5y ago

I dont watch enough content on YT that would require I care about the up/down - heck - I have been on reddit for 15 years and I also dont care about voting there as well... But removing this ability to see sentiment toward a vid (irrespective of gamification of such) is a stupid idea.

rektide 5y ago

There's such an interesting p2p search problem here, once YouTube does remove the API endpoint too. What would or could we do to share our votes among ourselves? IMO one small step towards corporatism/away from democracy for youtube, one huge hallmark event showing which way the winds are blowing.

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vxNsr 5y ago

I was hoping someone would do this.

drcongo 5y ago

YouTube dislikes all viewers.

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