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You've heard of levers, I'm sure. One classic 'simple machines'. Skateboards have more leverage than fists.

by Eelongate 5y ago

Dylan16807 5y ago
They're not that big compared to arms. Moderately more leverage, but a significant reduction in weight.
- Eelongate 5y ago
  They're about as long medieval maces, with a similarly heavy bit of metal on the end. And when either is held in the hand and swung, they have substantially more leverage than the hand itself. Unless you think he was swinging a skateboard from his armpit? This conversation is getting ridiculous.
  - Dylan16807 5y ago
    > And when either is held in the hand and swung, they have substantially more leverage than the hand itself. Unless you think he was swinging a skateboard from his armpit? A skateboard held in your hand can't use much of the mass of your arm to help, it's mostly impacting with its own weight. Your hand can impact with a lot more weight behind it even though the swing radius won't be as big.
    - Jensson 5y ago
      People die if you hit them with in the head with a fist sized rock, that is what is required for something to be a deadly weapon. A metal rimmed skateboard can deal more damage than a rock so it is a deadly weapon.
      - Dylan16807 5y ago
        I can understand that, and see my other response https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29236031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29236031, but even so... How many people, if you asked "Do you have any weapons in your backyard?", would say "Yes, several rocks."
        Jensson 5y ago
        But if someone charged at you holding a rock ready to swing it high, would you fear for your life? Almost surely, yes, you should fear for your life in that situation. This isn't about possession but about a confrontation. A person with a rock wont get caught by police and taken to court over owning a weapon. But a person swinging the rock around and charging at people will get charged for attacking people with a deadly weapon. And in this situation the question is "Was it reasonable to fear for your life?", then the second definition is used.
        Dylan16807 5y ago
        If it's about confrontation, I'd fear for my life if someone came at me hard enough even if they were empty-handed or holding something tiny. And I'll point out that the original post I responded to was saying that they were armed. To me that implies the object needs to be a weapon in a vacuum.
        Jensson 5y ago
        Yeah, I agree that the person wasn't armed. Armed typically means weapons made to kill like firearms, I just object to the deadly weapons discussion since that is a much more lax term.

You've heard of levers, I'm sure. One classic 'simple machines'. Skateboards have more leverage than fists.

Dylan16807 5y ago

They're not that big compared to arms. Moderately more leverage, but a significant reduction in weight.

Eelongate 5y ago
They're about as long medieval maces, with a similarly heavy bit of metal on the end. And when either is held in the hand and swung, they have substantially more leverage than the hand itself. Unless you think he was swinging a skateboard from his armpit? This conversation is getting ridiculous.
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  > And when either is held in the hand and swung, they have substantially more leverage than the hand itself. Unless you think he was swinging a skateboard from his armpit? A skateboard held in your hand can't use much of the mass of your arm to help, it's mostly impacting with its own weight. Your hand can impact with a lot more weight behind it even though the swing radius won't be as big.
  - Jensson 5y ago
    People die if you hit them with in the head with a fist sized rock, that is what is required for something to be a deadly weapon. A metal rimmed skateboard can deal more damage than a rock so it is a deadly weapon.
    - Dylan16807 5y ago
      I can understand that, and see my other response https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29236031 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29236031, but even so... How many people, if you asked "Do you have any weapons in your backyard?", would say "Yes, several rocks."
      - Jensson 5y ago
        But if someone charged at you holding a rock ready to swing it high, would you fear for your life? Almost surely, yes, you should fear for your life in that situation. This isn't about possession but about a confrontation. A person with a rock wont get caught by police and taken to court over owning a weapon. But a person swinging the rock around and charging at people will get charged for attacking people with a deadly weapon. And in this situation the question is "Was it reasonable to fear for your life?", then the second definition is used.
        Dylan16807 5y ago
        If it's about confrontation, I'd fear for my life if someone came at me hard enough even if they were empty-handed or holding something tiny. And I'll point out that the original post I responded to was saying that they were armed. To me that implies the object needs to be a weapon in a vacuum.
        Jensson 5y ago
        Yeah, I agree that the person wasn't armed. Armed typically means weapons made to kill like firearms, I just object to the deadly weapons discussion since that is a much more lax term.