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To quote Sourcehut Pages Limitations (https://srht.site/limitations https://srht.site/limitations) > Connections from CloudFlare’s reverse proxy are dropped. D

To quote Sourcehut Pages Limitations (https://srht.site/limitations https://srht.site/limitations) > Connections from CloudFlare’s reverse proxy are dropped. Do not help one private company expand its control over all internet traffic. We really to not let the internet become so centralized.

miyuru 5y ago
Cloudflare is the only provider that I know of that provides IPv6 reverse proxy for free with fair limits. If it wasn't for them most of my sites won't be accessible for more than half of the internet.
- guilhas 5y ago
  For "free" Also maybe there is a reasons for most of the internet not to care about ipv6 or current implementation, but that is another different big debate
  - ohyeshedid 5y ago
    What would those reasons be?
GrayShade 5y ago
Good, it's not up to Sourcehut to decide how I should expose a web service (or browse the Internet FWIW).
- roberto 5y ago
  They're not? You're free to not use Sourcehut.
stoned 5y ago
SourceHut and its founder are the promulgators or a never ended stream of strong opinions and principled edicts that do little but alienate people. Drew’s solution to every problem is blocking and blackholing [0] which makes him seem weak and petty and suggests that by refusing to work constructively with people he’s mostly interested in strongarming and asserting dominance. I find it pretty hard to take him seriously and run from anything he’s associated with, even when I agree. There’s this concept called “non-violent communication” that he would be well-served to explore. https://github.com/makeworld-the-better-one/amfora/issues/199 https://github.com/makeworld-the-better-one/amfora/issues/19...
- vonadz 5y ago
  Promulgators... nice. Saving that in the lexicon for future use.
  - stoned 5y ago
    s/promulgators or/promulgators of/ Yeah, it's usually used in the context of the unilateral issuing of decrees.
    - vonadz 5y ago
      Sounds as pretentious as what it describes.
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- ectopod 5y ago
  Non-violent communication works if you're talking to an individual as an equal but corporations cannot empathise or be empathised with. It's madness to try.
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  - stoned 5y ago
    The open source developer of amfora is about as far as you can get from a corporation, though. And behind every cloudflare reverse proxy connection is a human. Blocking them for nothing other than their choice of Internet route stands antithetical to the foundational spirit of the net, which he is ostensibly trying to protect.
Eikon 5y ago
Even if I don't agree with his opinion, I really don't understand why so much people actually use cloudflare. SSL is a solved problem since let's encrypt, cloudflare actually decreases performance (by adding an hop when serving dynamic content). For most websites, DDoS attacks are a non-issue. It just feels like, unnecessary technology?
- runamok 5y ago
  I mean CDNs (content delivery networks) are pretty much agreed help performance by serving static content close to the end user. https://stevesouders.com/examples/rules.php https://stevesouders.com/examples/rules.php And you'd be surprised how much bot traffic that most sites get that you may or may not want to allow. Not every user feels comfortable setting up Let's Encrypt (though I agree it's awesome) or even has sufficient privileges to do so. Compared to other services like AWS Cloudfront/WAF/etc., Fastly, Akamai, etc. IMO their offerings are quite powerful and economical. https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/#overview https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/#overview
- GrayShade 5y ago
  I've recently started using their DNS service and I've been using 1.1.1.1 for a couple of years now. I think Cloudflare has done more for the Internet than a lot of other large companies, and I'm inclined to trust them regardless of what the sr.ht founder says. Their CAPTCHAs are annoying, though, and I wouldn't miss them an ounce if they went away.
  - vonadz 5y ago
    I feel like I've single-handedly trained their AI to identify buses, boats, and planes at this point.
    - anamax 5y ago
      I've never gotten planes. Buses and boats are very rare (for me). I mostly get crosswalks and traffic lights. I occasionally get mountains, motorcycles, and bicycles.
SergeAx 5y ago
They are working via WARP VPN, which is good. I wonder how do they differ those services, by headers only?

miyuru 5y ago

Cloudflare is the only provider that I know of that provides IPv6 reverse proxy for free with fair limits. If it wasn't for them most of my sites won't be accessible for more than half of the internet.

guilhas 5y ago
For "free" Also maybe there is a reasons for most of the internet not to care about ipv6 or current implementation, but that is another different big debate
- ohyeshedid 5y ago
  What would those reasons be?

GrayShade 5y ago

Good, it's not up to Sourcehut to decide how I should expose a web service (or browse the Internet FWIW).

roberto 5y ago
They're not? You're free to not use Sourcehut.

stoned 5y ago

SourceHut and its founder are the promulgators or a never ended stream of strong opinions and principled edicts that do little but alienate people. Drew’s solution to every problem is blocking and blackholing [0] which makes him seem weak and petty and suggests that by refusing to work constructively with people he’s mostly interested in strongarming and asserting dominance. I find it pretty hard to take him seriously and run from anything he’s associated with, even when I agree. There’s this concept called “non-violent communication” that he would be well-served to explore. https://github.com/makeworld-the-better-one/amfora/issues/199 https://github.com/makeworld-the-better-one/amfora/issues/19...

vonadz 5y ago
Promulgators... nice. Saving that in the lexicon for future use.
- stoned 5y ago
  s/promulgators or/promulgators of/ Yeah, it's usually used in the context of the unilateral issuing of decrees.
  - vonadz 5y ago
    Sounds as pretentious as what it describes.
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ectopod 5y ago
Non-violent communication works if you're talking to an individual as an equal but corporations cannot empathise or be empathised with. It's madness to try.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- stoned 5y ago
  The open source developer of amfora is about as far as you can get from a corporation, though. And behind every cloudflare reverse proxy connection is a human. Blocking them for nothing other than their choice of Internet route stands antithetical to the foundational spirit of the net, which he is ostensibly trying to protect.

Eikon 5y ago

Even if I don't agree with his opinion, I really don't understand why so much people actually use cloudflare. SSL is a solved problem since let's encrypt, cloudflare actually decreases performance (by adding an hop when serving dynamic content). For most websites, DDoS attacks are a non-issue. It just feels like, unnecessary technology?

runamok 5y ago
I mean CDNs (content delivery networks) are pretty much agreed help performance by serving static content close to the end user. https://stevesouders.com/examples/rules.php https://stevesouders.com/examples/rules.php And you'd be surprised how much bot traffic that most sites get that you may or may not want to allow. Not every user feels comfortable setting up Let's Encrypt (though I agree it's awesome) or even has sufficient privileges to do so. Compared to other services like AWS Cloudfront/WAF/etc., Fastly, Akamai, etc. IMO their offerings are quite powerful and economical. https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/#overview https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/#overview
GrayShade 5y ago
I've recently started using their DNS service and I've been using 1.1.1.1 for a couple of years now. I think Cloudflare has done more for the Internet than a lot of other large companies, and I'm inclined to trust them regardless of what the sr.ht founder says. Their CAPTCHAs are annoying, though, and I wouldn't miss them an ounce if they went away.
- vonadz 5y ago
  I feel like I've single-handedly trained their AI to identify buses, boats, and planes at this point.
  - anamax 5y ago
    I've never gotten planes. Buses and boats are very rare (for me). I mostly get crosswalks and traffic lights. I occasionally get mountains, motorcycles, and bicycles.

SergeAx 5y ago

They are working via WARP VPN, which is good. I wonder how do they differ those services, by headers only?