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>most people in the EU don't have passports Really? This is kind of surprizing. Even with Schengen, you'd want to have a passport when traveling within the EU.
by ginko 5y ago
>most people in the EU don't have passports
Really? This is kind of surprizing. Even with Schengen, you'd want to have a passport when traveling within the EU.
- albertopv 5y agoNot at all, ID is enough. You don't need it when travelling in Shenghen area. I made my passport to travel to USA and Mexico, havent used since.
- vintagedave 5y ago> Even with Schengen, you'd want to have a passport when traveling within the EU. No. Your ID card is enough. You don't need a passport to do something like board a flight within the Schengen zone.
- Hamuko 5y agoThe only valid ID that I have is my passport though.
- dkjaudyeqooe 5y agoHe means an EU id card. If you don't have an EU id card then you're not an EU resident and it doesn't apply to you anyway. Edit: except Denmark, Iceland and Ireland it seems. Further edit: OK, so id cards are not compulsory in all EU countries, so I withdraw my comment.
- Hamuko 5y agoI'm most definitely an EU resident/citizen (Finnish/citizen of Finland to be precise) and I do not have an EU ID card. I only have my passport.
- Symbiote 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_identity_card https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_identity_card It's not compulsory to have one in Finland.
- rich_sasha 5y agoUK didn’t really have ID cards while in the EU. They were introduced at one point, but never caught on. I never met anyone having one. A funny side effect, similar to the US I believe, is that you need a driving license to buy booze.
- ghaff 5y ago>you need a driving license to buy booze There may be some variation by state but you typically need a government-issued photo ID (Added: If they check, most places don't if you're obviously old enough.). Which often means a driver's license but can mean a state ID that you get instead of a driver's license. In theory you can probably use a passport/Global entry card/etc. But the more unusual ID you try to present, the greater the chance some store clerk won't accept it.
- Daniel_sk 5y agoMost (or all?) EU citizen have state issued IDs that are basically mandatory for every single citizen. UK doesn’t have a mandatory ID.
- dogma1138 5y agoOnly 16-17 EU member states have national mandatory ID card laws, in some it’s either a passport or a national ID card. I would bet on more people having a passport in the EU than an EU national ID card or those numbers being fairly close.
- ginko 5y agoI know your ID card is enough, but it's still more convenient with a passport, IMO.
- hnaccount_rng 5y agoHow’s that? Assuming you don’t leave the EU those are _exactly_ equivalent
- ginko 5y agoDunno, maybe I'm an old-timer. For me international travel=passport.
- mbirth 5y agoTechnically, yes. But AFAIK, the eGates at e.g. Heathrow didn't work with a German ID card so you had to queue for a human.
- soco 5y agoThose gates only work with biometric documents and not all passes are biometric...
- Symbiote 5y agoHow? The EU identity card fits in a wallet, and is cheaper to replace if lost. It's waterproof.
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- martinald 5y agoWhy? You can use your ID card which every state has as far as I know (apart from the UK!)
- henrikeh 5y agoHere in Denmark we don’t, so most people have a passport.
- ghaff 5y agoI'm not European and I don't know but I assume CNN wouldn't get this sort of basic fact wrong. Here's what the article says: ---------- Since October 1, EU citizens can no longer travel to the UK on their ID cards; instead, they must use passports. "That's enormously important," says Tom Jenkins, who says that around three quarters of Europeans don't have passports, since they can travel around Europe with their ID cards. "For a family of four, the logistical and cost implications of traveling to the UK become really prohibitive. It affects school trips too -- if some kids don't have European passports, before they'd have used ID cards, but now they'd need a visa. It means schools will either have to exclude kids on grounds of ethnicity -- or they won't bother coming to the UK and we'll see a genuine drop in visitors."
- wreath 5y agoWhy would they have to exclude based on ethnicity now but not before? Even when UK was part of EU, kids who were not EU nationals still needed visa to go to UK.
- dkjaudyeqooe 5y agoThey're talking about the fact that due to a lack of passports among certain people (probably immigrants) it would become de-facto ethnicity based.
- Scoundreller 5y agoNot just lack of passports, but France has tons of children born in France that aren't French citizens. For them, entering on a French ID card made life really easy. Getting and having a Malian or Algerian passport and then a visa for UK entry sets a high bar for entry.
- Scoundreller 5y ago> It affects school trips too -- if some kids don't have European passports, before they'd have used ID cards, but now they'd need a visa. This is even more complicated than it appears because of jus sanguine and immigration. If you're born in France, you're not an automatic French citizen unless you're born to a French national. You get the nationality of your parent(s), which might make UK-entry complicated. Only once you're 13 and have lived in France can you apply for French citizenship[1], and even that can take 1-4 years [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_nationality_law#French_citizenship_acquired_at_age_13%E2%80%9316 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_nationality_law#French_... [2] https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Obtaining-French-nationality-can-take-up-to-four-years-study-shows-with-applications-taking-four-times-as-long-in-some-areas-of-France https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/Obtaining-French...
- Daniel_sk 5y agoYes. A lot of people in EU don’t have passports because they don’t travel outside of EU. An ID is sufficient.
- tchalla 5y ago> Even with Schengen, you'd want to have a passport when traveling within the EU You don't need any ID to travel but it is recommend to have an ID. The ID can be a passport or National ID. It doesn't have to be a passport. https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/eu-citizen/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/eu-c...