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I don't see how it could be censorship resistant tbh. The data has to be served from a service somewhere, and I can't think of reasons IPFS nodes would be resis

by _def 5y ago

I don't see how it could be censorship resistant tbh. The data has to be served from a service somewhere, and I can't think of reasons IPFS nodes would be resistant to take downs.

capableweb 5y ago
IPFS is content-addressed, so as long as you have the ID of the thing you want to download, you'll be able to download and verify that download from any node. So as long as you can connect to one node that has your content, you'll be able to download it. Of course, nothing is 100% censorship resistant, but content-addressing helps a lot.
- lijogdfljk 5y ago
  I read that IPFS purposefully has mechanisms in it to allow banning content. While hypothetically you could still run a custom client that won't ban content, peered nodes might still ban the content leaving you with no source. Based on what i read long, long ago - IPFS is very much not intended to be censorship resistant.
  - capableweb 5y ago
    > I read that IPFS purposefully has mechanisms in it to allow banning content I'd be interested in reading whatever article you got that from, because last time I checked, IPFS doesn't have any such mechanism. You might be confusing it with the content blocking Protocol Labs does on the public IPFS gateway (https://ipfs.io/ipfs/hash https://ipfs.io/ipfs/hash). The gateway being a centralized gateway to distributed IPFS content, is hosted by a US party and must therefore follow US law, so sometimes they block content from being accessed via the gateway.
  - TUSF 5y ago
    I can totally see how some nodes could block content, and refuse to propagate information on certain content addresses, but as far as I know, this would only slow down reaching the desired content, not completely block it—every node on the network would need to blacklist the banned address, which is pretty infeasible. Also, as far as I know, the official daemon doesn't really have any functionality to block certain addresses like this.
- billconan 5y ago
  can it hide my identity (ip)?
michaelsbradley 5y ago
For censorship resistance there needs to be incentivised replication such that the number of nodes in the p2p storage network (providing the data set or chunks of it) is very large and therefore “take down” becomes intractable. Also, clients need to retrieve data from/as peers in the p2p network rather than through gateways.
- serverholic 5y ago
  Filecoin and other storage crypto coins are trying to address this.
serverholic 5y ago
It's kinda like bittorrent. As long as someone is hosting the file, it's still there.
- Scoundreller 5y ago
  I really need to improve my understanding of magnet links and DHT.
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by _def 5y ago

I don't see how it could be censorship resistant tbh. The data has to be served from a service somewhere, and I can't think of reasons IPFS nodes would be resistant to take downs.

capableweb 5y ago

IPFS is content-addressed, so as long as you have the ID of the thing you want to download, you'll be able to download and verify that download from any node. So as long as you can connect to one node that has your content, you'll be able to download it. Of course, nothing is 100% censorship resistant, but content-addressing helps a lot.

lijogdfljk 5y ago
I read that IPFS purposefully has mechanisms in it to allow banning content. While hypothetically you could still run a custom client that won't ban content, peered nodes might still ban the content leaving you with no source. Based on what i read long, long ago - IPFS is very much not intended to be censorship resistant.
- capableweb 5y ago
  > I read that IPFS purposefully has mechanisms in it to allow banning content I'd be interested in reading whatever article you got that from, because last time I checked, IPFS doesn't have any such mechanism. You might be confusing it with the content blocking Protocol Labs does on the public IPFS gateway (https://ipfs.io/ipfs/hash https://ipfs.io/ipfs/hash). The gateway being a centralized gateway to distributed IPFS content, is hosted by a US party and must therefore follow US law, so sometimes they block content from being accessed via the gateway.
- TUSF 5y ago
  I can totally see how some nodes could block content, and refuse to propagate information on certain content addresses, but as far as I know, this would only slow down reaching the desired content, not completely block it—every node on the network would need to blacklist the banned address, which is pretty infeasible. Also, as far as I know, the official daemon doesn't really have any functionality to block certain addresses like this.
billconan 5y ago
can it hide my identity (ip)?

michaelsbradley 5y ago

For censorship resistance there needs to be incentivised replication such that the number of nodes in the p2p storage network (providing the data set or chunks of it) is very large and therefore “take down” becomes intractable. Also, clients need to retrieve data from/as peers in the p2p network rather than through gateways.

serverholic 5y ago
Filecoin and other storage crypto coins are trying to address this.

serverholic 5y ago

It's kinda like bittorrent. As long as someone is hosting the file, it's still there.

Scoundreller 5y ago
I really need to improve my understanding of magnet links and DHT.

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