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kinda buried the lede, didn't they? "However, according to the EMA, the benefits of both mRNA shots in preventing COVID-19 continue to outweigh the risks, the

kinda buried the lede, didn't they? "However, according to the EMA, the benefits of both mRNA shots in preventing COVID-19 continue to outweigh the risks, the regulator said, echoing similar views expressed by U.S. regulators and the World Health Organization."

AutumnCurtain 5y ago
Saying the French recommend one vaccine over the other for a given age group won't get the clicks and attention of a skirting-around-antivaxxer headline, and the comment engagement generated by drawing in antivaxxers to conflict with pro-vaccine commentators will further amplify its signal.
- 323 5y ago
  This is a Reuters article. They don't do that. They are also not really into "engagement", they get their money in other ways (subscriptions).
  - AutumnCurtain 5y ago
    Fair enough, overly cynical on my part
belter 5y ago
Views who change all the time. "Researchers find a higher than expected risk of myocarditis in young men after full vaccination." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/09/health/researchers-find-a-higher-than-expected-risk-of-myocarditis-in-young-men-after-full-vaccination.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/09/health/researchers-find-a... Particularly this one from article above: "...Boys between 16 and 19 years of age had the highest incidence of myocarditis after the second dose, according to a second study in the journal. The risk of heart problems in boys of that age was about nine times higher than in unvaccinated boys of the same age..." Edit: The article above has a quote that I find fascinating "Myocarditis is among the concerns that may have led the Food and Drug Administration to ask Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna to enroll more children in their vaccine trials. Potential side effects are likely to dominate the discussion when agency advisers meet next week to review the evidence for a vaccine in children aged 5 to 11 years." What kind of person voluntarily enrolls their children in vaccine "trials"?
- darkerside 5y ago
  It does make one wonder if it's a representative sample
- dekhn 5y ago
  a relative risk sounds large, but the underlying rates of myocarditis are incredibly low, so the total impact of this is fairly small.
  - bjt2n3904 5y ago
    If my risk of dying from myocarditis caused by a vaccine is 1%, and my risk of dying if I catch COVID is 1%, which risk should I take?
    - dekhn 5y ago
      you should listen to the health authorities, who have already done these calculations and considered a wide range of other evidence, and continue to recommend that poeople get vaccinated, instead of not.
    - dionian 5y ago
      This is the actual buried lede, not "but globalist vax-only people still push vax" , we already know that
    - boulos 5y ago
      That would be clear. Except "1%" isn't some "small number". The actual rate of myocardial problems, in young men due to covid vaccination is nearly 100x less than that at .014%. [1] https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/10/covid-vaccine-related-myocarditis-rare-usually-mild-studies-say https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/10/covid-va...
    - ceejayoz 5y ago
      > If my risk of dying from myocarditis caused by a vaccine is 1% It isn't. Even if it were an identical 1% and 1%, the answer to: > which risk should I take? would then involve other variables, like the fact "that vaccinated people infected with the delta variant are 63 per cent less likely to infect people who are unvaccinated". https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-likely-are-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-l...
y7 5y ago
The first sentence of the article is a lot better (emphasis mine): "France's public health authority has recommended people under 30 be given Pfizer's Comirnaty COVID-19 vaccine when available instead of Moderna Inc's Spikevax jab, which carried comparatively higher risks of heart-related problems."

AutumnCurtain 5y ago

Saying the French recommend one vaccine over the other for a given age group won't get the clicks and attention of a skirting-around-antivaxxer headline, and the comment engagement generated by drawing in antivaxxers to conflict with pro-vaccine commentators will further amplify its signal.

323 5y ago
This is a Reuters article. They don't do that. They are also not really into "engagement", they get their money in other ways (subscriptions).
- AutumnCurtain 5y ago
  Fair enough, overly cynical on my part

belter 5y ago

Views who change all the time. "Researchers find a higher than expected risk of myocarditis in young men after full vaccination." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/09/health/researchers-find-a-higher-than-expected-risk-of-myocarditis-in-young-men-after-full-vaccination.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/09/health/researchers-find-a... Particularly this one from article above: "...Boys between 16 and 19 years of age had the highest incidence of myocarditis after the second dose, according to a second study in the journal. The risk of heart problems in boys of that age was about nine times higher than in unvaccinated boys of the same age..." Edit: The article above has a quote that I find fascinating "Myocarditis is among the concerns that may have led the Food and Drug Administration to ask Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna to enroll more children in their vaccine trials. Potential side effects are likely to dominate the discussion when agency advisers meet next week to review the evidence for a vaccine in children aged 5 to 11 years." What kind of person voluntarily enrolls their children in vaccine "trials"?

darkerside 5y ago
It does make one wonder if it's a representative sample
dekhn 5y ago
a relative risk sounds large, but the underlying rates of myocarditis are incredibly low, so the total impact of this is fairly small.
- bjt2n3904 5y ago
  If my risk of dying from myocarditis caused by a vaccine is 1%, and my risk of dying if I catch COVID is 1%, which risk should I take?
  - dekhn 5y ago
    you should listen to the health authorities, who have already done these calculations and considered a wide range of other evidence, and continue to recommend that poeople get vaccinated, instead of not.
  - dionian 5y ago
    This is the actual buried lede, not "but globalist vax-only people still push vax" , we already know that
  - boulos 5y ago
    That would be clear. Except "1%" isn't some "small number". The actual rate of myocardial problems, in young men due to covid vaccination is nearly 100x less than that at .014%. [1] https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/10/covid-vaccine-related-myocarditis-rare-usually-mild-studies-say https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/10/covid-va...
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    > If my risk of dying from myocarditis caused by a vaccine is 1% It isn't. Even if it were an identical 1% and 1%, the answer to: > which risk should I take? would then involve other variables, like the fact "that vaccinated people infected with the delta variant are 63 per cent less likely to infect people who are unvaccinated". https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-likely-are-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-l...

y7 5y ago

The first sentence of the article is a lot better (emphasis mine): "France's public health authority has recommended people under 30 be given Pfizer's Comirnaty COVID-19 vaccine when available instead of Moderna Inc's Spikevax jab, which carried comparatively higher risks of heart-related problems."