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"If that's the case, it would essentially dash any hopes of eliminating or eradicating the virus in the U.S. — and therefore in the world — says veterinary viro

"If that's the case, it would essentially dash any hopes of eliminating or eradicating the virus in the U.S. — and therefore in the world — says veterinary virologist Suresh Kuchipudi at Penn State, who co-led the study." When Denmark discovered that COVID19 was running wild in their mink farms, they culled millions of minks and banned the entire industry which was the third largest within the agricultural sector in the country.

Mizza 5y ago
I'm from Pennsylvania. Culling all the deer would be like culling all the rats or pigeons in New York. It's not a possibility.
- prox 5y ago
  Just make it very profitable. Buffalo were wiped out pretty quickly.
  - rwmj 5y ago
    Not to mention passenger pigeons :-(
  - nradov 5y ago
    Is that a joke? You can't seriously be advocating the extinction of a crucial species. And it's not just deer. Many other mammal species can also catch and transmit SARS-CoV-2.
    - prox 5y ago
      No not advocating for extinction, just an observation we humans are really good at killing whole species.
- pvaldes 5y ago
  It doesn't need to cull all the deer. Wolves would remove the disease for free with surgical precision. Targeting the ill and weak, is what they do all the time. Or we could vaccinate the deer and let the natural selection act over the Qmamon crew, of course. Even the big birds are vaccinated (and Colbert is a genius).
  - makeitrain 5y ago
    Before we had people vaccines, we social isolated. It will be even more difficult to get deer to follow isolation and masking protocols and to show up to a vaccination clinic.
  - retrac 5y ago
    There is no evidence yet the deer actually get sick. It's quite normal for a virus to be terribly pathogenic in one mammalian species, and able to infect a wide variety of others but without illness or only minor illness. For example, camelpox (related to smallpox) is horrible in camels and kills a quarter of camels infected. In humans and most other mammals it usually is limited to skin sores at the site of contact and goes away quickly. Similarly, monkeypox is highly contagious and usually fatal in its host monkeys, much less contagious and only infrequently fatal in humans, and downright hard to give to a cow or mouse and it won't make them ill. But they can catch it. All of the poxes exhibit that trait, with family- or genus-specific pathogenicity but broad cross-species contagiousness.
    - pvaldes 5y ago
      This is the reason to humans being unable to do this task, but wolves still are able to discover and target preys with the virus. Preys are proven in the hardest conditions possible. Even a small respiratory problem would eventually appear and be fatal if the prey must endure a long distance chase running from wolves.
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beagle3 5y ago
Danish mink are farmed, and the intervention was in those farms. American dear are wild.
- throwaway4good 5y ago
  Sure. But couldn't the US government have done something if they wanted to? I think it shows a very different attitude towards the pandemic.
  - mcntsh 5y ago
    What are you suggesting exactly? Culling the white tail dear population across the USA?
    - makeitrain 5y ago
      I mean we have enough rednecks to get it done. Declare open season and even provide a bounty and it could be done shockingly quick. It's probably not a good idea though. I don't know, I'll yield to the science on this one.
      - simonsarris 5y ago
        The USA has many places without any roads at all, which require ~75 mile hikes to get to, like parts of Wyoming, and also shares a 2,5000 mile border with a neighboring country that is mostly uninhabited land. We do not have remotely enough resources to eradicate deer even if we were crazy enough to.
      - nradov 5y ago
        Is that a joke? You can't seriously be advocating the extinction of a crucial species. And it's not just deer. Many other mammal species can also catch and transmit SARS-CoV-2.
      - snarf21 5y ago
        Not all hunters are rednecks. Also, clearly you have never gone hunting. Let's rephrase this in a more understandable way. Do you think it would be possible to kill/capture ALL the pigeons in even a single city

Mizza 5y ago

I'm from Pennsylvania. Culling all the deer would be like culling all the rats or pigeons in New York. It's not a possibility.

prox 5y ago
Just make it very profitable. Buffalo were wiped out pretty quickly.
- rwmj 5y ago
  Not to mention passenger pigeons :-(
- nradov 5y ago
  Is that a joke? You can't seriously be advocating the extinction of a crucial species. And it's not just deer. Many other mammal species can also catch and transmit SARS-CoV-2.
  - prox 5y ago
    No not advocating for extinction, just an observation we humans are really good at killing whole species.
pvaldes 5y ago
It doesn't need to cull all the deer. Wolves would remove the disease for free with surgical precision. Targeting the ill and weak, is what they do all the time. Or we could vaccinate the deer and let the natural selection act over the Qmamon crew, of course. Even the big birds are vaccinated (and Colbert is a genius).
- makeitrain 5y ago
  Before we had people vaccines, we social isolated. It will be even more difficult to get deer to follow isolation and masking protocols and to show up to a vaccination clinic.
- retrac 5y ago
  There is no evidence yet the deer actually get sick. It's quite normal for a virus to be terribly pathogenic in one mammalian species, and able to infect a wide variety of others but without illness or only minor illness. For example, camelpox (related to smallpox) is horrible in camels and kills a quarter of camels infected. In humans and most other mammals it usually is limited to skin sores at the site of contact and goes away quickly. Similarly, monkeypox is highly contagious and usually fatal in its host monkeys, much less contagious and only infrequently fatal in humans, and downright hard to give to a cow or mouse and it won't make them ill. But they can catch it. All of the poxes exhibit that trait, with family- or genus-specific pathogenicity but broad cross-species contagiousness.
  - pvaldes 5y ago
    This is the reason to humans being unable to do this task, but wolves still are able to discover and target preys with the virus. Preys are proven in the hardest conditions possible. Even a small respiratory problem would eventually appear and be fatal if the prey must endure a long distance chase running from wolves.

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beagle3 5y ago

Danish mink are farmed, and the intervention was in those farms. American dear are wild.

throwaway4good 5y ago
Sure. But couldn't the US government have done something if they wanted to? I think it shows a very different attitude towards the pandemic.
- mcntsh 5y ago
  What are you suggesting exactly? Culling the white tail dear population across the USA?
  - makeitrain 5y ago
    I mean we have enough rednecks to get it done. Declare open season and even provide a bounty and it could be done shockingly quick. It's probably not a good idea though. I don't know, I'll yield to the science on this one.
    - simonsarris 5y ago
      The USA has many places without any roads at all, which require ~75 mile hikes to get to, like parts of Wyoming, and also shares a 2,5000 mile border with a neighboring country that is mostly uninhabited land. We do not have remotely enough resources to eradicate deer even if we were crazy enough to.
    - nradov 5y ago
      Is that a joke? You can't seriously be advocating the extinction of a crucial species. And it's not just deer. Many other mammal species can also catch and transmit SARS-CoV-2.
    - snarf21 5y ago
      Not all hunters are rednecks. Also, clearly you have never gone hunting. Let's rephrase this in a more understandable way. Do you think it would be possible to kill/capture ALL the pigeons in even a single city