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I've always used the like / dislike ratio as a measure on the quality/controversiality of the video in question. Removing it makes paid content so much more at

I've always used the like / dislike ratio as a measure on the quality/controversiality of the video in question. Removing it makes paid content so much more attractive for starters... I am almost laughing as I'm writing this, but reality is moving towards 1984 much quicker that I ever imagined. The dislike button is like the booo's at a stadium. Removing all negative feedback removes the public ability to respond negatively to a video. Which obviously is the point. Damn Google got really evil real fast.

LanceH 5y ago
There are way too many 15 minute videos along the lines of "How to do X in Y" which should be 30 seconds long. The downvotes are telltale for these, then the most upvoted comment tends to be, "actual answer at 13:30". Or the video just isn't what the clickbait title says. I get that some things get brigaded sometimes, but in my experience that's few and far between compared to false junk.
- lucumo 5y ago
  > I get that some things get brigaded sometimes, but in my experience that's few and far between compared to false junk. Ans quite frankly, things being brigaded probably means it's a political hot take, that's even boring when you agree, and just stupid when you don't. If you remove those from the downvoted video list, you're probably left with only a few actually insightful and useful videos.
- black3r 5y ago
  > There are way too many 15 minute videos along the lines of "How to do X in Y" which should be 30 seconds long. This is why I stopped using YouTube a few years ago and heavily prefer text+image tutorials to videos nowadays. YouTube is pushing longer videos, because they show you more ads in the middle of them and creators are also rewarded with more money for longer videos + they can insert their "sponsor messages" a.k.a. even more ads.
mcphage 5y ago
> The dislike button is like the booo's at a stadium. Removing all negative feedback removes the public ability to respond negatively to a video. They neither removed nor disabled the dislike button.
- darkerside 5y ago
  They just silenced the audio of the telecast
- Dylan16807 5y ago
  That's moving the goalpost. They're removing all negative feedback in public. And even then, saying they didn't disable the button is only arguably true. The button no longer performs its primary function.
  - mcphage 5y ago
    > That's moving the goalpost. I'm not the one moving the goalpost—it started as "reality is moving towards 1984", then "they removed the ability to give negative feedback", and now it's "they removed the ability to see the negative feedback that others gave." That's a significant change. > saying they didn't disable the button is only arguably true. The button no longer performs its primary function I'm more sympathetic to this argument—that the primary purpose of the "dislike" button isn't to give the creator negative feedback, but as a "rating" system, with the only 2 possible ratings "+1" and "-1". The problem with that is that, "they changed the rating system" doesn't seem to merit all of the comparisons to 1984. And "more like 1984" vs. "less like 1984" seems a silly way to evaluate rating systems. Edit: actually, the rating system changed from "+1", "-1", "no vote", to "+1", "no vote"—since you can see the # of views, then you can determine roughly how many "no votes" there are.
aaronbrethorst 5y ago
reality is moving towards 1984 much quicker that I ever imagined Nothing says “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever” like removing the 'dislike' count from YouTube videos.
- B1FF_PSUVM 5y ago
  Perhaps a smelly sock instead of a boot?

LanceH 5y ago

There are way too many 15 minute videos along the lines of "How to do X in Y" which should be 30 seconds long. The downvotes are telltale for these, then the most upvoted comment tends to be, "actual answer at 13:30". Or the video just isn't what the clickbait title says. I get that some things get brigaded sometimes, but in my experience that's few and far between compared to false junk.

lucumo 5y ago
> I get that some things get brigaded sometimes, but in my experience that's few and far between compared to false junk. Ans quite frankly, things being brigaded probably means it's a political hot take, that's even boring when you agree, and just stupid when you don't. If you remove those from the downvoted video list, you're probably left with only a few actually insightful and useful videos.
black3r 5y ago
> There are way too many 15 minute videos along the lines of "How to do X in Y" which should be 30 seconds long. This is why I stopped using YouTube a few years ago and heavily prefer text+image tutorials to videos nowadays. YouTube is pushing longer videos, because they show you more ads in the middle of them and creators are also rewarded with more money for longer videos + they can insert their "sponsor messages" a.k.a. even more ads.

mcphage 5y ago

> The dislike button is like the booo's at a stadium. Removing all negative feedback removes the public ability to respond negatively to a video. They neither removed nor disabled the dislike button.

darkerside 5y ago
They just silenced the audio of the telecast
Dylan16807 5y ago
That's moving the goalpost. They're removing all negative feedback in public. And even then, saying they didn't disable the button is only arguably true. The button no longer performs its primary function.
- mcphage 5y ago
  > That's moving the goalpost. I'm not the one moving the goalpost—it started as "reality is moving towards 1984", then "they removed the ability to give negative feedback", and now it's "they removed the ability to see the negative feedback that others gave." That's a significant change. > saying they didn't disable the button is only arguably true. The button no longer performs its primary function I'm more sympathetic to this argument—that the primary purpose of the "dislike" button isn't to give the creator negative feedback, but as a "rating" system, with the only 2 possible ratings "+1" and "-1". The problem with that is that, "they changed the rating system" doesn't seem to merit all of the comparisons to 1984. And "more like 1984" vs. "less like 1984" seems a silly way to evaluate rating systems. Edit: actually, the rating system changed from "+1", "-1", "no vote", to "+1", "no vote"—since you can see the # of views, then you can determine roughly how many "no votes" there are.

aaronbrethorst 5y ago

reality is moving towards 1984 much quicker that I ever imagined Nothing says “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—forever” like removing the 'dislike' count from YouTube videos.

B1FF_PSUVM 5y ago
Perhaps a smelly sock instead of a boot?