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Every video that correctly describes the benefits of the COVID vaccine and makes it to the front page is spammed with dislikes, and this constitutes a major thr

Every video that correctly describes the benefits of the COVID vaccine and makes it to the front page is spammed with dislikes, and this constitutes a major threat to public health. No, this is actually a very important change.

oliv__ 5y ago
Whose public health exactly? The people who have willingly chosen not to take the vaccine? Or are you meaning we must "protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated"?
- pcwalton 5y ago
  I'm not interested in debating antivax propaganda.
  - bequanna 5y ago
    Absolutely. It is so much easier to just silence your opposition.
  - oliv__ 5y ago
    If it's public health you're so interested in, you might want to get the "public" on board with your ideas, lest you be on the side of propaganda.
    - pcwalton 5y ago
      The public is broadly on board with vaccines, including mandates [1]. The entire problem is that COVID videos are spammed by an unrepresentative group of antivaxxers. [1]: https://news.gallup.com/poll/354506/update-american-public-opinion-vaccination-requirements.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/354506/update-american-public-o...
bequanna 5y ago
Ah, right. We must censor speech for the "greater good". The underclass must not be allowed to organize or disseminate "dangerous" ideas.
- Quarrelsome 5y ago
  you can still leave a shitty comment, its just your negative feedback in the binary only goes to the publisher to show them that they have missed the mark as opposed to signalling behaviour to others (still possible with comments).
  - oooooooooooow 5y ago
    Yesterday I could leave a dissenting comment and publicly vote down the content. Today I can leave a dissenting comment. Tomorrow... ?
    - IshKebab 5y ago
      "Comments are disabled for this video"
    - Quarrelsome 5y ago
      just post it on reddit and shit talk it there? Having a conversation on Youtube is a horrible experience anyway.
  - supperburg 5y ago
    But under your logic a shitty comment is a danger to public health just like a dislike.
    - bequanna 5y ago
      Ah, but then we can use the comment to update their social credit score accordingly.
  - bequanna 5y ago
    Not quite. The social signal that a large number of people disapprove of content is what they are looking to hide. It isn't just important for us to know if the majority of viewers think a fortnite walkthrough is shitty. We also need to know when a politician is lying to us. Do most people think this is bullshit? That is what the like/dislike ratio communicates so succinctly.
saiya-jin 5y ago
Any good gained with this will be overshadowed by losing super important feedback from real users about negativity of the content. Kids videos, tutorials, whatever. How will you know you are getting the best result for your search instead of some search-optimized garbage that already lured tons of people before?
- Drew_ 5y ago
  I suppose seeing highly disliked videos is a good red flag for some, but these videos don't really show up in search results or recommendations to begin with. I can't remember the last time I've seen a video with any more than 15 or 20% dislikes. Either way, you should probably watch the video anyway and make up your own mind.
webinvest 5y ago
The public health of who exactly? The people who have refused to or chosen not to get vaccinated? It’s like a seatbelt. You can require that everyone have access to one but you can’t require that everyone use one.
- colinmhayes 5y ago
  Except not getting vaccinated harms others. Yes, they're mostly harming themselves, but some people aren't able to be vaccinated, and a few vaccinated people have still been hospitalized from covid complications.
  - pcwalton 5y ago
    People have literally died from not being able to receive treatment from their diseases because hospitals were filled with COVID patients who didn't take the vaccine when offered.
  - webinvest 5y ago
    No, it doesn’t.
    - colinmhayes 5y ago
      Tell that to the vaccinated people who have still died of covid due to spread from the unvaccinated.
- ihumanable 5y ago
  What? Seatbelt laws exist, in many places in the US if a cop sees you driving without your seatbelt on you are getting pulled over and getting a hefty fine.

oliv__ 5y ago

Whose public health exactly? The people who have willingly chosen not to take the vaccine? Or are you meaning we must "protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated"?

pcwalton 5y ago
I'm not interested in debating antivax propaganda.
- bequanna 5y ago
  Absolutely. It is so much easier to just silence your opposition.
- oliv__ 5y ago
  If it's public health you're so interested in, you might want to get the "public" on board with your ideas, lest you be on the side of propaganda.
  - pcwalton 5y ago
    The public is broadly on board with vaccines, including mandates [1]. The entire problem is that COVID videos are spammed by an unrepresentative group of antivaxxers. [1]: https://news.gallup.com/poll/354506/update-american-public-opinion-vaccination-requirements.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/354506/update-american-public-o...

bequanna 5y ago

Ah, right. We must censor speech for the "greater good". The underclass must not be allowed to organize or disseminate "dangerous" ideas.

Quarrelsome 5y ago
you can still leave a shitty comment, its just your negative feedback in the binary only goes to the publisher to show them that they have missed the mark as opposed to signalling behaviour to others (still possible with comments).
- oooooooooooow 5y ago
  Yesterday I could leave a dissenting comment and publicly vote down the content. Today I can leave a dissenting comment. Tomorrow... ?
  - IshKebab 5y ago
    "Comments are disabled for this video"
  - Quarrelsome 5y ago
    just post it on reddit and shit talk it there? Having a conversation on Youtube is a horrible experience anyway.
- supperburg 5y ago
  But under your logic a shitty comment is a danger to public health just like a dislike.
  - bequanna 5y ago
    Ah, but then we can use the comment to update their social credit score accordingly.
- bequanna 5y ago
  Not quite. The social signal that a large number of people disapprove of content is what they are looking to hide. It isn't just important for us to know if the majority of viewers think a fortnite walkthrough is shitty. We also need to know when a politician is lying to us. Do most people think this is bullshit? That is what the like/dislike ratio communicates so succinctly.

saiya-jin 5y ago

Any good gained with this will be overshadowed by losing super important feedback from real users about negativity of the content. Kids videos, tutorials, whatever. How will you know you are getting the best result for your search instead of some search-optimized garbage that already lured tons of people before?

Drew_ 5y ago
I suppose seeing highly disliked videos is a good red flag for some, but these videos don't really show up in search results or recommendations to begin with. I can't remember the last time I've seen a video with any more than 15 or 20% dislikes. Either way, you should probably watch the video anyway and make up your own mind.

webinvest 5y ago

The public health of who exactly? The people who have refused to or chosen not to get vaccinated? It’s like a seatbelt. You can require that everyone have access to one but you can’t require that everyone use one.

colinmhayes 5y ago
Except not getting vaccinated harms others. Yes, they're mostly harming themselves, but some people aren't able to be vaccinated, and a few vaccinated people have still been hospitalized from covid complications.
- pcwalton 5y ago
  People have literally died from not being able to receive treatment from their diseases because hospitals were filled with COVID patients who didn't take the vaccine when offered.
- webinvest 5y ago
  No, it doesn’t.
  - colinmhayes 5y ago
    Tell that to the vaccinated people who have still died of covid due to spread from the unvaccinated.
ihumanable 5y ago
What? Seatbelt laws exist, in many places in the US if a cop sees you driving without your seatbelt on you are getting pulled over and getting a hefty fine.