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> The difference is that influenza isn’t required to work, attend a concert, eat in NYC, ect. Look at the average number of flu cases and deaths per year, then

> The difference is that influenza isn’t required to work, attend a concert, eat in NYC, ect. Look at the average number of flu cases and deaths per year, then look at how many COVID cases and deaths just this year, and maybe you'll understand why. > The pharmaceutical industry doesn’t have a great track record of doing what’s best for you This argument is so silly to me, because it's CLEARLY not thought through. A vaccine is NOT in the best interest of Big Pharma. They stand to make MORE money by not making the vaccine and allowing the virus to rip through the population and selling treatments.

dudul 5y ago
When the disease has something like 99.999% survival rate, no. Treating sick people is not as lucrative as forcing 90% of the population to get a shot every 6 months to keep their job.
- Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
  Focusing on survival rates ignores the overflowing ICUs, not to mention a lot of people coming out of it with long-lasting lung damage. But what really irks me is the hypocrisy. Everyone crying about not wanting to get the jab because they don't trust the drug companies will run to the hospital and take everything they'll offer when they get COVID.
disambiguation 5y ago
> Look at the average number of flu cases and deaths per year, then look at how many COVID cases and deaths just this year, and maybe you'll understand why. I just took another look at the numbers, the flu kills ~27k people total every year and Covid kills ~33k under 50's every year, which largely covers the attend a concert and eat in NYC crowd. Not that it means anything, I'm deliberately comparing different age groups and those numbers would certainly be higher if not for lock-downs and vaccines. I just find it interesting how close the numbers are. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-...
- kasey_junk 5y ago
  Not sure why you are deliberately comparing different age groups but from your own source influenza killed ~1800 “under 50s” in the 2018-2019 season. The numbers aren’t remotely close.
  - disambiguation 5y ago
    it's not to minimize the dangers of covid, if anything this reinforces it's many times more dangerous than the flu. but i think it's interesting context in terms of risk assessment to realize that under 50's account for 2/3 of the population yet only 6.7% of fatal covid cases.
- Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
  > I just took another look at the numbers, the flu kills ~27k people total every year and Covid kills ~33k under 50's every year, which largely covers the attend a concert and eat in NYC crowd. I have never seen a more clear example of "The statistics don't fit my narrative, so I'm going to abuse them". Compare the COVID deaths under 50 with the Flu deaths under 50.
  - disambiguation 5y ago
    How am I abusing the data and what narrative am I claiming to have? I know the audience on HN and I know I don't need to hand-hold anyone here when presenting statistics. I even included a disclaimer for people like you.

dudul 5y ago

When the disease has something like 99.999% survival rate, no. Treating sick people is not as lucrative as forcing 90% of the population to get a shot every 6 months to keep their job.

Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
Focusing on survival rates ignores the overflowing ICUs, not to mention a lot of people coming out of it with long-lasting lung damage. But what really irks me is the hypocrisy. Everyone crying about not wanting to get the jab because they don't trust the drug companies will run to the hospital and take everything they'll offer when they get COVID.

disambiguation 5y ago

> Look at the average number of flu cases and deaths per year, then look at how many COVID cases and deaths just this year, and maybe you'll understand why. I just took another look at the numbers, the flu kills ~27k people total every year and Covid kills ~33k under 50's every year, which largely covers the attend a concert and eat in NYC crowd. Not that it means anything, I'm deliberately comparing different age groups and those numbers would certainly be higher if not for lock-downs and vaccines. I just find it interesting how close the numbers are. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/2018-2019.html https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-...

kasey_junk 5y ago
Not sure why you are deliberately comparing different age groups but from your own source influenza killed ~1800 “under 50s” in the 2018-2019 season. The numbers aren’t remotely close.
- disambiguation 5y ago
  it's not to minimize the dangers of covid, if anything this reinforces it's many times more dangerous than the flu. but i think it's interesting context in terms of risk assessment to realize that under 50's account for 2/3 of the population yet only 6.7% of fatal covid cases.
Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
> I just took another look at the numbers, the flu kills ~27k people total every year and Covid kills ~33k under 50's every year, which largely covers the attend a concert and eat in NYC crowd. I have never seen a more clear example of "The statistics don't fit my narrative, so I'm going to abuse them". Compare the COVID deaths under 50 with the Flu deaths under 50.
- disambiguation 5y ago
  How am I abusing the data and what narrative am I claiming to have? I know the audience on HN and I know I don't need to hand-hold anyone here when presenting statistics. I even included a disclaimer for people like you.