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Sometimes I think consciousness is an accidental side effect of a whole load of other processes that we don’t even notice happening.
by andy_ppp 5y ago
Sometimes I think consciousness is an accidental side effect of a whole load of other processes that we don’t even notice happening.
- phito 5y agoAnd all/some of these other processes might be conscious too, but we just can't communicate with them
- amelius 5y agoOr perhaps the processes are an accidental side effect of consciousness.
- andy_ppp 5y agoI’ll get downvoted for this pseudoscience, but I sometimes wonder if free will is the feeling of the infinite number of universes splitting and your “choice” is merely which branch you ended up in…
- amelius 5y ago"Side effect" is perhaps not the right term, since the effect loops back into the processes; evidence for that is that we are talking about consciousness.
- pengstrom 5y agoDo we know this is true? Could the loop back also be an illusion? From a cursory glance it seems like "free will" is massively exaggerated. However, the belief of free will seems to be healthy.
- r0b05 5y agoPlease elaborate on why you think free will is exaggerated and how it could be healthy. I'm really interested in this being a meditator.
- freeest-will 5y agoOur current understanding of physics leaves no place for free will. Of course, many disagree with this. https://physicsworld.com/a/why-free-will-is-beyond-physics/ https://physicsworld.com/a/why-free-will-is-beyond-physics/ https://aeon.co/essays/heres-why-so-many-physicists-are-wrong-about-free-will https://aeon.co/essays/heres-why-so-many-physicists-are-wron...
- inter_netuser 5y agoLeaves no room for free will? We literally assume axiomatically experimenters freedom. Since when is superdeterminism a done deal? Conway had a few interesting words on this topic: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will_theorem https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will_theorem
- freeest-will 5y agoWe know our knowledge of physics is incomplete. There is no largely accepted obvious place where free will emerges from, while at the same time superdeterminism is not proven as you say. So it's fair for some to say that physics as we know it doesn't allow free will, while at the same time it's fair for others to say that obviously they have free will thus it must exist.
- inter_netuser 5y ago"physics as we know it doesn't allow free will" How?
- baq 5y agofree will is very inefficient in a power/performance sense: most decisions are made by your subconsciousness and your free will rational self will just accept the outcome if it is barely plausible. you have to focus to even be aware that it's happening.