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I don't think you would if you don't rely on vulgarism, so please shoot.

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Leparamour 5y ago
> I don't think you would if you don't rely on vulgarism, so please shoot. Define vulgarism in this context? The non-PC answer would be ethnic nepotism and corrupting influence through AIPAC and ADL. Jews are heavily overrepresented throughout every circle of power and influence (media, academia, business, politics) and trying to reign in Israel would mean going against that entrenched jewish power block which any prospective US presidential candidate relies upon. Call it a 'deep state' if you will. https://www.timesofisrael.com/all-the-jews-biden-has-tapped-for-top-roles-in-his-new-administration/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/all-the-jews-biden-has-tapped-...
- vadfa 5y ago
  Thanks. This is what I meant. I didn't make my point because, at least to me, this is clear and well known, so I dismiss anybody who says not to know it as disingeniuous.
  - raxxorrax 5y ago
    I always wondered who nibbled off the foreskins of Americans... But seriously, I somehow expected such an answer and I believe it to be heavily misinformed. It is the old formula, Jews are somehow responsible for it all. Can you give an example for a policy or public influence that was made in favor of Jews? I find them often very disagreeable. 2 Jews in a room can net you 5 different opinions. That is just a stereotype of course, but of what should this influence consist off? Israel? A large part of diaspora is often quite blunt with its criticism of Israel in a way that many Israeli don't hold back criticism themselves. Doesn't sound like effective collusion to be honest.
    - vadfa 5y ago
      I can show you lots of policies that were made against whites.
      - raxxorrax 5y ago
        I assure you that there are Jews that are very critical with the recent focus on skin color, quotas for access to education and narratives surrounding white people being the root of evil. There are Jews that support them too, sure, but just as many or probably even more white people do so.
    - wara23arish 5y ago
      Does the public policy saying that in order to receive aid due to hurricane harvey you must vow not to boycott israeli products count? https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/texas-city-tells-people-no-hurricane-harvey-aid-unless-they-promise-not-boycott https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/texas-city-tells-people-... There are countless many examples like this.
      - raxxorrax 5y ago
        That is indeed quite a weird restriction. Sure that law was made by Jews? I think many would oppose such a move. On the other hand some feel compelled to enact such laws because there are groups tell funny stories about Jews or Israel. Any more examples? Help for hurricane relief, as weird as it may be, doesn't indicate political influence, although many states have special protections for minorities of all kind.
        wara23arish 5y ago
        You asked for public policy that favors Jews. This one favors them but is not targeted to American Jews rather Israelis. Boycotting Israel is not about telling funny stories about Jews. I suggest you read a little about why the boycott exists in the first place if you truly want to know. I had no idea Israelis thousands of miles away are considered minorities in states like Texas and Georgia and many others. There is also a restriction on working for the state that you must not boycott Israel. This is as clear as day that its a violation of free speech by gov actors.
- pron 5y ago
  White men are also overrepresented throughout every circle of power and influence in America (and their corrupting ethnic nepotism is well-established), and Jewish people don't use whatever power they have any more than any other ethnic, social, or religious group. Just a reminder, antisemitism is the belief that "the Jews" secretly pull the levers of power: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Definition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Definition
  - vadfa 5y ago
    >White men are also overrepresented throughout every circle of power and influence in America In terms of % of population, no they are generally not. Jews are.
  - pron 5y ago
    Unlike the myth, called antisemitism, that Jews control the world, the US actually is ruled by a minority group -- white men: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/26/white-male-minority-rule-us-politics-research https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/26/white-male-m... While Jews are overrepresented, their numbers are so low that even with that overrepresentation they don't hold much power in absolute terms. Moreover, Jewish people are more diverse politically than other groups, and so cannot be considered as a cohesive unit. For example, in America, white men lean Republican at about the same rate as Jews lean Democrat, but Christian Evangelicals lean Republican more strongly than Jews lean Democrat.

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> I don't think you would if you don't rely on vulgarism, so please shoot. Define vulgarism in this context? The non-PC answer would be ethnic nepotism and corrupting influence through AIPAC and ADL. Jews are heavily overrepresented throughout every circle of power and influence (media, academia, business, politics) and trying to reign in Israel would mean going against that entrenched jewish power block which any prospective US presidential candidate relies upon. Call it a 'deep state' if you will. https://www.timesofisrael.com/all-the-jews-biden-has-tapped-for-top-roles-in-his-new-administration/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/all-the-jews-biden-has-tapped-...

vadfa 5y ago
Thanks. This is what I meant. I didn't make my point because, at least to me, this is clear and well known, so I dismiss anybody who says not to know it as disingeniuous.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  I always wondered who nibbled off the foreskins of Americans... But seriously, I somehow expected such an answer and I believe it to be heavily misinformed. It is the old formula, Jews are somehow responsible for it all. Can you give an example for a policy or public influence that was made in favor of Jews? I find them often very disagreeable. 2 Jews in a room can net you 5 different opinions. That is just a stereotype of course, but of what should this influence consist off? Israel? A large part of diaspora is often quite blunt with its criticism of Israel in a way that many Israeli don't hold back criticism themselves. Doesn't sound like effective collusion to be honest.
  - vadfa 5y ago
    I can show you lots of policies that were made against whites.
    - raxxorrax 5y ago
      I assure you that there are Jews that are very critical with the recent focus on skin color, quotas for access to education and narratives surrounding white people being the root of evil. There are Jews that support them too, sure, but just as many or probably even more white people do so.
  - wara23arish 5y ago
    Does the public policy saying that in order to receive aid due to hurricane harvey you must vow not to boycott israeli products count? https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/texas-city-tells-people-no-hurricane-harvey-aid-unless-they-promise-not-boycott https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/texas-city-tells-people-... There are countless many examples like this.
    - raxxorrax 5y ago
      That is indeed quite a weird restriction. Sure that law was made by Jews? I think many would oppose such a move. On the other hand some feel compelled to enact such laws because there are groups tell funny stories about Jews or Israel. Any more examples? Help for hurricane relief, as weird as it may be, doesn't indicate political influence, although many states have special protections for minorities of all kind.
      - wara23arish 5y ago
        You asked for public policy that favors Jews. This one favors them but is not targeted to American Jews rather Israelis. Boycotting Israel is not about telling funny stories about Jews. I suggest you read a little about why the boycott exists in the first place if you truly want to know. I had no idea Israelis thousands of miles away are considered minorities in states like Texas and Georgia and many others. There is also a restriction on working for the state that you must not boycott Israel. This is as clear as day that its a violation of free speech by gov actors.
pron 5y ago
White men are also overrepresented throughout every circle of power and influence in America (and their corrupting ethnic nepotism is well-established), and Jewish people don't use whatever power they have any more than any other ethnic, social, or religious group. Just a reminder, antisemitism is the belief that "the Jews" secretly pull the levers of power: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Definition https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism#Definition
- vadfa 5y ago
  >White men are also overrepresented throughout every circle of power and influence in America In terms of % of population, no they are generally not. Jews are.
- pron 5y ago
  Unlike the myth, called antisemitism, that Jews control the world, the US actually is ruled by a minority group -- white men: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/26/white-male-minority-rule-us-politics-research https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/26/white-male-m... While Jews are overrepresented, their numbers are so low that even with that overrepresentation they don't hold much power in absolute terms. Moreover, Jewish people are more diverse politically than other groups, and so cannot be considered as a cohesive unit. For example, in America, white men lean Republican at about the same rate as Jews lean Democrat, but Christian Evangelicals lean Republican more strongly than Jews lean Democrat.