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macOS still crashes, has weird bugs and every 6 months they go and change a bunch of shit that either deprecates functionality, causes conflict with how things

macOS still crashes, has weird bugs and every 6 months they go and change a bunch of shit that either deprecates functionality, causes conflict with how things work or takes another handful of your privacy. Grass isn't always greener. Edit for an example, I'm stuck on Catalina because they tried deprecating functionality my firewall uses. And the window shifter shortcut key program I use won't work in Big Sur.

wtallis 5y ago
> and every 6 months they go and change a bunch of shit that either deprecates functionality, causes conflict with how things work or takes another handful of your privacy. No, that's Microsoft Windows. Apple only does it annually.
- cercatrova 5y ago
  Windows has some of the best backwards compatibility around. Stuff from the 90s still works on Windows. Meanwhile macOS deprecated all 32 bit programs.
  - wtallis 5y ago
    The kinds of things the post above complained about breaking on macOS—third-party software that messes with system internals in unsupported ways—also break frequently on Windows. To say nothing of the first-party breakage of Microsoft constantly moving around settings, re-enabling or re-installing annoyances you turned off, and removing your ability to easily get rid of them, and adding new ones behind your back. Microsoft really only tries to preserve basic compatibility for well-behaved applications that aren't tightly integrated with any OS components or specific hardware/drivers and aren't doing anything that Microsoft disapproves of. Anything that strays outside those boundaries will run into trouble, and a lot of software ends up falling outside those boundaries even if it didn't really need to. Both operating systems are pretty bad at letting you wield control over your own computer. But macOS doesn't try as hard to obscure the BS or obstruct your attempts to tame it, and macOS actually lets you refuse updates that you don't want.
  - tcmart14 5y ago
    Yes and many of the major Linux distros have discontinued or plan to discontinue official 32-bit/multilib support. Why? A lot of 32-bit libraries have serious vulnerabilities that no one is fixing. Essentially most of the world has transitioned to 64-bit except for a few key areas that are still trying to run libraries that are decades old.
runjake 5y ago
Sure, macOS still crashes, I didn't claim it doesn't. But macOS crashes with a lot less regularity for me. I use Linux as my daily driver and the apps I use (GNOME Terminal, other terms, Spotify, Slack, Brave and Firefox, and the GNOME desktop itself) crash multiple, sometimes several times a day on my two (work, personal) machines. This happens across diverse machines, as well as across multiple distributions (though again, pop!_os, so far seems much less trashy for whatever reason).
- emkoemko 5y ago
  what are you doing to cause these crashes or what hardware?? i use manjaro and pop_o, makes no sense since i get less crashes then windows and my computer is on for days without anything crashing, other then me writing a bug and crashing my own stuff :) i do lots of work and gaming on them so i don't know why your experience is so different.

wtallis 5y ago

> and every 6 months they go and change a bunch of shit that either deprecates functionality, causes conflict with how things work or takes another handful of your privacy. No, that's Microsoft Windows. Apple only does it annually.

cercatrova 5y ago
Windows has some of the best backwards compatibility around. Stuff from the 90s still works on Windows. Meanwhile macOS deprecated all 32 bit programs.
- wtallis 5y ago
  The kinds of things the post above complained about breaking on macOS—third-party software that messes with system internals in unsupported ways—also break frequently on Windows. To say nothing of the first-party breakage of Microsoft constantly moving around settings, re-enabling or re-installing annoyances you turned off, and removing your ability to easily get rid of them, and adding new ones behind your back. Microsoft really only tries to preserve basic compatibility for well-behaved applications that aren't tightly integrated with any OS components or specific hardware/drivers and aren't doing anything that Microsoft disapproves of. Anything that strays outside those boundaries will run into trouble, and a lot of software ends up falling outside those boundaries even if it didn't really need to. Both operating systems are pretty bad at letting you wield control over your own computer. But macOS doesn't try as hard to obscure the BS or obstruct your attempts to tame it, and macOS actually lets you refuse updates that you don't want.
- tcmart14 5y ago
  Yes and many of the major Linux distros have discontinued or plan to discontinue official 32-bit/multilib support. Why? A lot of 32-bit libraries have serious vulnerabilities that no one is fixing. Essentially most of the world has transitioned to 64-bit except for a few key areas that are still trying to run libraries that are decades old.

runjake 5y ago

Sure, macOS still crashes, I didn't claim it doesn't. But macOS crashes with a lot less regularity for me. I use Linux as my daily driver and the apps I use (GNOME Terminal, other terms, Spotify, Slack, Brave and Firefox, and the GNOME desktop itself) crash multiple, sometimes several times a day on my two (work, personal) machines. This happens across diverse machines, as well as across multiple distributions (though again, pop!_os, so far seems much less trashy for whatever reason).

emkoemko 5y ago
what are you doing to cause these crashes or what hardware?? i use manjaro and pop_o, makes no sense since i get less crashes then windows and my computer is on for days without anything crashing, other then me writing a bug and crashing my own stuff :) i do lots of work and gaming on them so i don't know why your experience is so different.