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what's the motivation behind this? why do they want to do this?

by synergy20 5y ago

WJW 5y ago
Same reason as anyone to open source anything?
- larodi 5y ago
  Reasons for open source vary and are perceived differently by different parties. Sometimes is more than one reason, and there is nothing like common sense when it comes to open sourcing stuff.
tyingq 5y ago
Reduce the US ability to restrict trade around general purpose CPUs.
ksec 5y ago
Commoditise your complement. All Chinese companies, even start up are investing in RISC-V so they are less reliant on IPs outside of China.
- amelius 5y ago
  It's either "commoditize your complement" or "integrate your entire supply chain". The latter is especially interesting if you want strong control over your supply chain, see Apple. Apple could not have created such a well-integrated experience if their CPU was designed by a different company.
  - dragonelite 5y ago
    BYD is also a big vertical integrator, so much so that they their EVs are price competitive with ICE vehicles. They don't seem to have any issue with chips supplies given they are their designer and fabricator.
  - ClumsyPilot 5y ago
    "Apple could not have created such a well-integrated experience if their CPU was designed by a different company." Citation needed
dragonelite 5y ago
Open sourcing these sort of designs might be a nice business card, recruiting young Chinese students to stay in China instead of moving oversea. But it is also a nice recruitment advertisement for foreign talent "he we make cool stuff, you want to design and create cool stuff contact us!!!" Don't forget access too US tech is not guaranteed anymore, so why should Chinese big tech risk it all building their bedrock on stuff the US can just sanction. Seems like a very very big business risk. You can try to do it but just look at Huawei and ZTE, Huawei is too diversified for the US to kill but they have created enough supply fear that other parties are hesitant to deal with them. ZTE was on the chopping block and now has a internal US cell keeping a eye on them to make sure they don't misbehave.
kingcharles 5y ago
Link juice.

what's the motivation behind this? why do they want to do this?

WJW 5y ago

Same reason as anyone to open source anything?

larodi 5y ago
Reasons for open source vary and are perceived differently by different parties. Sometimes is more than one reason, and there is nothing like common sense when it comes to open sourcing stuff.

tyingq 5y ago

Reduce the US ability to restrict trade around general purpose CPUs.

ksec 5y ago

Commoditise your complement. All Chinese companies, even start up are investing in RISC-V so they are less reliant on IPs outside of China.

amelius 5y ago
It's either "commoditize your complement" or "integrate your entire supply chain". The latter is especially interesting if you want strong control over your supply chain, see Apple. Apple could not have created such a well-integrated experience if their CPU was designed by a different company.
- dragonelite 5y ago
  BYD is also a big vertical integrator, so much so that they their EVs are price competitive with ICE vehicles. They don't seem to have any issue with chips supplies given they are their designer and fabricator.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  "Apple could not have created such a well-integrated experience if their CPU was designed by a different company." Citation needed

dragonelite 5y ago

Open sourcing these sort of designs might be a nice business card, recruiting young Chinese students to stay in China instead of moving oversea. But it is also a nice recruitment advertisement for foreign talent "he we make cool stuff, you want to design and create cool stuff contact us!!!" Don't forget access too US tech is not guaranteed anymore, so why should Chinese big tech risk it all building their bedrock on stuff the US can just sanction. Seems like a very very big business risk. You can try to do it but just look at Huawei and ZTE, Huawei is too diversified for the US to kill but they have created enough supply fear that other parties are hesitant to deal with them. ZTE was on the chopping block and now has a internal US cell keeping a eye on them to make sure they don't misbehave.

kingcharles 5y ago

Link juice.