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I clicked through, skimmed a video, and I am missing your point. What is your takeaway from this channel / hopeful takeaway for me?

andrewfromx 5y ago
i said hours. You really have to watch a lot of content before your logical brain will let you believe, wait, omg, maybe i don't want to really sell my soul.
- andrewfromx 5y ago
  also https://youtu.be/dAS-QzWvj8g?t=558 https://youtu.be/dAS-QzWvj8g?t=558 learn the history of the french revolution and how you came to be an atheist in the first place
  - mattnewton 5y ago
    I came to my current atheism from a long journey starting in a religious household, by first struggling with Epicurus' formulation of the problem of evil. That predates the French revolution by at least 1,000 years...
    - ByteJockey 5y ago
      Over 2000, actually. The the problem of evil, as originally stated by Epicurus (assuming he was the original formulator) has always been weird to me. Dude was in an era where believe in multiple gods was fairly common. In addition, these gods were not generally portrayed as the combo of omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient at the same time that makes this an actual problem. Don't get me wrong. Huge problem for followers of Abrahamic religions, but not really a big deal for someone in ancient Greece.
    - Igelau 5y ago
      I came to mine in college. I had been a somewhat casual Protestant. I was away from my church and tried actually reading the Bible. Yikes. Let's start at the Gospels instead. Also yikes. The funny thing is that religions are incredibly interesting to me: my shelf has several Bibles, a Quran, a Baghavad Gita, a Book of Mormon, just to name a few. I could almost be Catholic if they'd just stop lying to themselves and everyone else about the semantics of the whole thing. If they'd just throw out the scripture already, let ladies be priests, and admit that they worship a fertility goddess and a Pokedex of demigods -- it's not a terrible choice!
      - mattnewton 5y ago
        Reading the Bible just made me a deist / agnostic at first. It is a wild ride, but I couldn’t write off artistic liberty / nuance haha. Total agree with your other posts. You can be culturally catholic and think of it as a big book club and still get value out of it- I know some people who do.
- st_goliath 5y ago
  > maybe i don't want to really sell my soul. Don't worry, I can sell you a replacement. I have plenty in stock, I swear! So feel free to take one extra, just in case yours goes bad or something. Btw.: I can also sell you karma if you need some. That would be $10/Gy
- seph-reed 5y ago
  > You really have to watch a lot of content before your logical brain will let you believe Textbook indoctrination
  - op00to 5y ago
    And if you don’t yet believe, just watch a little more.
- bserge 5y ago
  I wouldn't sell my diarrhea for $10 (OK, I would if anyone said they would buy it). For something that can't be proven to exist or not, but with a high perceived value (based on all the religious bullshit and movies), I wouldn't even try to sell my soul for less than five figures.
- oh_sigh 5y ago
  Is it ok if I sold my soul 20 years ago to fraudulently sell my soul some more?
  - throwawaygh 5y ago
    Not according this this contract (SECTION IV.B). However, this contract does AFAIK leave open the possibility that you have more than one soul; in that case, you could sell your other souls. Just not the one you already sold. I think.
- throwawaygh 5y ago
  > You really have to watch a lot of content before your logical brain will let you believe... I can't tell if this is a joke/troll or you're suggesting that religious belief requires brain-washing.
  - kadoban 5y ago
    Some/many religious people are remarkably honest about how little sense it all makes, they just don't say it that way. The usual way this comes up is in terms of how important "faith" is to the whole thing, which is another way of saying you need to turn off the reasoning parts and just believe.

andrewfromx 5y ago

i said hours. You really have to watch a lot of content before your logical brain will let you believe, wait, omg, maybe i don't want to really sell my soul.

andrewfromx 5y ago
also https://youtu.be/dAS-QzWvj8g?t=558 https://youtu.be/dAS-QzWvj8g?t=558 learn the history of the french revolution and how you came to be an atheist in the first place
- mattnewton 5y ago
  I came to my current atheism from a long journey starting in a religious household, by first struggling with Epicurus' formulation of the problem of evil. That predates the French revolution by at least 1,000 years...
  - ByteJockey 5y ago
    Over 2000, actually. The the problem of evil, as originally stated by Epicurus (assuming he was the original formulator) has always been weird to me. Dude was in an era where believe in multiple gods was fairly common. In addition, these gods were not generally portrayed as the combo of omnipotent, omnibenevolent, and omniscient at the same time that makes this an actual problem. Don't get me wrong. Huge problem for followers of Abrahamic religions, but not really a big deal for someone in ancient Greece.
  - Igelau 5y ago
    I came to mine in college. I had been a somewhat casual Protestant. I was away from my church and tried actually reading the Bible. Yikes. Let's start at the Gospels instead. Also yikes. The funny thing is that religions are incredibly interesting to me: my shelf has several Bibles, a Quran, a Baghavad Gita, a Book of Mormon, just to name a few. I could almost be Catholic if they'd just stop lying to themselves and everyone else about the semantics of the whole thing. If they'd just throw out the scripture already, let ladies be priests, and admit that they worship a fertility goddess and a Pokedex of demigods -- it's not a terrible choice!
    - mattnewton 5y ago
      Reading the Bible just made me a deist / agnostic at first. It is a wild ride, but I couldn’t write off artistic liberty / nuance haha. Total agree with your other posts. You can be culturally catholic and think of it as a big book club and still get value out of it- I know some people who do.
st_goliath 5y ago
> maybe i don't want to really sell my soul. Don't worry, I can sell you a replacement. I have plenty in stock, I swear! So feel free to take one extra, just in case yours goes bad or something. Btw.: I can also sell you karma if you need some. That would be $10/Gy
seph-reed 5y ago
> You really have to watch a lot of content before your logical brain will let you believe Textbook indoctrination
- op00to 5y ago
  And if you don’t yet believe, just watch a little more.
bserge 5y ago
I wouldn't sell my diarrhea for $10 (OK, I would if anyone said they would buy it). For something that can't be proven to exist or not, but with a high perceived value (based on all the religious bullshit and movies), I wouldn't even try to sell my soul for less than five figures.
oh_sigh 5y ago
Is it ok if I sold my soul 20 years ago to fraudulently sell my soul some more?
- throwawaygh 5y ago
  Not according this this contract (SECTION IV.B). However, this contract does AFAIK leave open the possibility that you have more than one soul; in that case, you could sell your other souls. Just not the one you already sold. I think.
throwawaygh 5y ago
> You really have to watch a lot of content before your logical brain will let you believe... I can't tell if this is a joke/troll or you're suggesting that religious belief requires brain-washing.
- kadoban 5y ago
  Some/many religious people are remarkably honest about how little sense it all makes, they just don't say it that way. The usual way this comes up is in terms of how important "faith" is to the whole thing, which is another way of saying you need to turn off the reasoning parts and just believe.