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DJI Mavic 3 Drone
- iab 5y ago> 46 Minutes Extended Flight Time > 15 km Video Transmission Range > 1080p/60fps FHD High-Framerate Live Feed > Extreme-Precision Positioning Technology Love how the localization accuracy isn’t quantified, just “extreme”. Looks very cool though.
- unwind 5y agoThe tech specs page [1] has some numbers, that might help. I think 8 m/s ascent rate and 5,000 m max service ceiling sounded impressive. [1]: https://www.dji.com/se/mobile/mavic-3/specs https://www.dji.com/se/mobile/mavic-3/specs
- wizardofaz 5y agoNah, that’s pretty standard. I too would also like to know about how much more precise their “positioning system” is which works in combination of GPS + downward facing cameras to correct for GPS drift.
- teruakohatu 5y agoLots of mentions of Hasselblad. DJI bought the company and are now branding small 4/3 sensors as Hasselblad, a brand associated with medium format sensors and optics.
- UncleOxidant 5y agoOh. So Hasselblad ain't what it used to be?
- derekjdanserl 5y agoThey sold a few lines of digital cameras for a while there that were beasts with large sensors like their analog ancestors, but it just didn’t make much practical sense aside from the fact that the old lenses could be used on the new cameras, and of course that only has limited value since old lenses lack modern focusing mechanisms.
- germinalphrase 5y agoI inherited a Hasselblad, shot it for a few years before succumbing to the inertia of digital. Still makes me a little sad that such a beautiful camera is just languishing on a shelf in my basement.
- aaronbrethorst 5y agoHit me up. I’d love to talk about buying it from you. I shoot film, primarily 120 and large format. I’d give your Hasselblad a good home. Email is in my profile.
- blhack 5y agoAlso: they were $50,000.
- derekjdanserl 5y agoYowzers. I guess I’m not surprised. I shot one once just being curious. It felt like driving a Cadillac, but the owner seemed to be struggling to find an actual purpose for it that his film Hasselblad wasn’t a better fit for.
- LegitShady 5y agothey were large format digital cameras and they were hassblad so they were very pricy. They weren't aimed at consumers or even your average pro. But I think the competing brands were good enough to make it non viable.
- petre 5y agoPhotography itself changed. Not many photographers are shooting for fashion magazines and you could probably get the job done with a Canon 5D which cost a fraction of what a Hasselblad did. Canon and Nikon were still kind of slow adopting new tech like mirrorless cameras and lost matket share to Sony. Leica instead concentrated on selling cameras to dentists and other well off types, making lenses for other camera systems and mobile phones. They're still here today.
- derekjdanserl 5y agoYes, it’s very awkward to see the Hasselblad (digital) logo on a drone. Of course a medium format sensor would be entirely counter-intuitive in such a use case. So sad watching the photography industry crumble like so.
- asdff 5y agoThey still sell medium format cameras. They'd probably be out of business without the investment.
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- ur-whale 5y ago> So sad watching the photography industry crumble like so. The photography industry IS DJI type companies these days.
- ricardobeat 5y agoDid you see the image quality in the sample videos? Seems to live up to the branding.
- wyager 5y agoIf you go to the DJI flagship in Shenzhen, they have a little Hasselblad store stuffed in the corner. Pretty incongruous.
- wmf 5y agoSony has fake Zeiss and Panasonic has fake Leica so DJI is just catching up.
- derekjdanserl 5y agoTrue, but Hasselblad is a bit of a unique situation, especially compared with Zeiss. Also, Sony and Panasonic do not disconfigure their lens hoods to accommodate the Zeiss/Leica logos.
- schleck8 5y agohttps://www.notebookcheck.com/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/Vivo_X60_Serie_Global_Launch.jpg https://www.notebookcheck.com/fileadmin/Notebooks/News/_nc3/... https://consumer-img.huawei.com/content/dam/huawei-cbg-site/weu/ch/mkt/campaign/p40/the-most-sophisticated-camera-system/images/camera/a-camera.jpg https://consumer-img.huawei.com/content/dam/huawei-cbg-site/...
- derekjdanserl 5y agoThose lends hoods are fully intact and symmetrical just as they should be.
- causi 5y agoOnePlus has had fake Hasselblad for a while as well.
- georgeek 5y agoHasselblad has its roots in military optics and space-constrained imaging solutions. They have made many professional surveillance systems over the years with smaller sensors. Hopefully this is not just a slapped logo.
- aaronbrethorst 5y agoSo you’re saying there’s no way I can strap my 80mm V-mount lens and 120 film back onto this drone?!?! That’s a letdown.
- derekjdanserl 5y agoIf “imaging above everything” then why does the lens casing/hood have 5 wacky-shaped lopsided panels? I don’t know much about drones, but it wasn’t very long ago that even consumer level camera equipment came with some degree of dignity and sincerity with respect to their purpose and their users. This could be the greatest camera ever made and that silly mess on the front would just be that much more of an insult. I just don’t understand.
- cptskippy 5y agoDo the flourishes impact the image quality somehow?
- derekjdanserl 5y ago>Do the flourishes impact the image quality somehow? Why undergo the research to find out? Why on Earth should that be necessary? Clearly this is more a symptom than anything, but the reason it doesn’t matter is not that the “flourish” does not affect image quality; it’s that the equipment is clearly trash anyhow. This kind of thing speaks for itself, just like the ridiculous idea that anyone should even want a Hasselblad mounted on a drone. It’s all a sad joke. For the record of nearly a century and a half, lens hoods are symmetrical with few exceptions, “flourishes” not being one of them. I don’t see changing this as a progression of any sort. It’s something closer to decadence.
- hytdstd 5y agoHow is it clearly trash?
- derekjdanserl 5y agoI only suspect the camera is trash. I know nothing about drones. I know that with these new digital toys the more traditional rules of photography are no longer embraced as rules to be broken but rather they are treated as a grab bag of techniques with no rhyme or reason. The equipment tends to reflect this. These cameras are hot rods rather than tools, which benefits nobody. These things are designed to be used one single way and that’s it. It should be unsurprising that they produce such repetitive results. They are not designed for creative endeavors but rather for some type of extreme performance. They are not modular. They are not repairable. They don’t even have a symmetrical lens hood lol. The drone stuff is the worst of it I’m sure, and I just find it sad.
- sneak 5y agoFun fact: most of my favorite companies these days are: 1) in shenzhen 2) less than ten years old (dji started in 2006, so a bit earlier) 3) making really cool shit.
- CamperBob2 5y agoI don't know about "favorite," but every time I mess around with my Mavic Mini, one thought keeps coming to my mind with absolute certainty: The people who built this are going to win. It's like 1970 all over again, only China is now the new Japan.
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- jcims 5y agoSame. They just jeep the hammer down and push the envelope. Skydio is the only challenger I’m aware of and they have a lot of work to do to catch up.
- kirse 5y agoWith drones we have this odd period of time where people are manually flying them, but the ultimate goal is autonomous flight. Basically we never wanted humans controlling drones in the first place, but it was needed while sensors / AI+ML improved. Skydio IMO has a big jump on DJI in this space while DJI does have an overall more polished package. Will be interesting to see how the next decade plays out.
- reasonabl_human 5y agoWhat other companies do you like? DJI products are impressive, wonder if I’m missing awareness on other similarly well formed tech
- sneak 5y agoAnker and Neewer are the first two others that come to mind.
- nixgeek 5y agoOuch $4,999 is quite the price for the Cine. That’s not a cheap drone. Wonder what they’re going to do with pricepoint for the future releases in the Inspire line.
- 14 5y agoFor that kind of price one almost needs to use the drone to make some money. Definitely out of my range. But for less then $50 I bought a basic drone from walmart that was awesome to fly. It could take pictures mind you the camera was fixed so you had to turn the drone the way you wanted to shoot. It was a hell of a lot of fun and I am thinking of getting another one some time to fly around the yard.
- jon-wood 5y agoHaving used one, and then upgraded to a Mavic Mini, $50 drones terrify me now. They're a safety hazard, both to you, and to anyone around you at the point you're flying them. A proper drone with GPS, an IMU, and visual position keeping is going to hold its position in really quite strong winds. $50 drones are going to get whisked off in the first stiff breeze, and then to top that as soon as they lose signal from the controller they'll either kill the rotors straight away and fall out of the sky, or they'll continue flying in whatever direction they're going until the batteries go flat, and then fall out of the sky. Possibly onto someone's head.
- hellbannedguy 5y agoIs anyone here making a living with a drone? It seemed like a few years ago, a guy could go out and buy a nice drone, and with a bit of hussle, and connections; make a living. Movies, commercials, etc. With the price point going down, and the boy in all of us looking for a reason to buy a drone--is anyone making a living here with there's.
- InvaderFizz 5y agoHopefully this means SDK 5.0 is forthcoming. The Mavic Mini 2 has been kneecapped for almost two years because there is no SDK release to support it.
- wizardofaz 5y agoSame with the Mavic Air 2. I figured they didn’t want it to have SDK support to push professionals doing mapping to buy the Mavic Pro tier
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- colechristensen 5y agoYou could watch the tone of this comment to get a much better reaction.
- thenewewb 5y agoHow’s that?
- colechristensen 5y ago> everyone out of China is communist contagion That’s just inflammatory. There are indeed reasons to be skeptical and careful about Chinese imports because of the actions and politics of the state among other reasons… but there you’re just name calling. Do you have actual reasons for your doubts or are they just “bad guys” to you?
- thenewewb 5y agoI actually don’t think this is an inflammatory comment, for humans, though I appreciate the sibling poster’s guidance about better engagement. I think it’s totally reasonable to assume that a Chinese company is anti-human by default and I think you’re concern trolling. $0.02.
- pphysch 5y ago> I think it’s totally reasonable to assume that a Chinese company is anti-human by default Completely, totally deranged. I recommend diversifying your news sources.
- ccpwhiteknight 5y agoI hope Xi sees this, bro
- hardwaregeek 5y agoI'd love to get a drone but there's no way in hell I can fly it in NYC airspace. Also, when people travel with a drone, do they actually look up the laws for each place they visit? Do they just wing it? How often do people get caught illegally flying drones? All of that seems like a headache.
- brandon 5y agoThere's a reasonably good FAA sponsored app to help drone owners with this problem: https://www.faa.gov/uas/recreational_fliers/where_can_i_fly/b4ufly/ https://www.faa.gov/uas/recreational_fliers/where_can_i_fly/...
- ehsankia 5y agoThat's awesome, and clever name too. Is there anything similar for other places? Canada / Europe?
- peterdn 5y agoAirMap mobile app [1] has a very comprehensive database of no fly zones, airports/airfields, and summaries of national rules. It works well in US/Canada and lots of countries in Europe too. I find it often misses local city or park-level rules so I'd always use it in conjunction with a local jurisdiction's app (if available), as well as checking council websites etc. [1]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airmap.airmap https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airmap.air...
- vgeek 5y agoThe Aloft app is good, too. It allows you to get automated approvals from LAANC when you are flying near certain airports.
- sgc 5y agoAutomated approvals is a killer feature. Will take a look.
- cconcepts 5y agoI recently bought a secondhand Original DJI Mavic Pro for chump change. For someone who knew nothing about drones it staggered me. For something so technologically advanced to be considered 'old' tech (manufactured 2017) is just unreal. It is now my frame of reference for all sorts of technology. Automatically not crashing, auto return to home, insane maneuverability on sport mode and all at a bizarrely low price for something that would have seemed science fiction to many punters 20 years ago. By commoditizing this kind of consumer tech that interfaces with the real world, DJI has changed my perception of what existing technology could be capable of and changed the way I consider usability in my own work.
- darknavi 5y agoI have a Mavic Pro from a few years ago. Still runs like a champ. The biggest draw for me to get a new one at some point would be the flight time per battery. My Mavic Pro gets ~20 minutes and the newer ones seem to get ~30 or more. Not a huge deal with a bank of batteries, but it will be nice ones my drone eventually kicks the bucket.
- latchkey 5y agoIf you really want to blow your mind, buy a used DJI FPV next and then put it into full manual mode...
- InvertedRhodium 5y agoIt'd blow their mind how easy it is to crash in manual mode with no experience.
- FPGAhacker 5y agoDefinitely this. Use a simulator for a while first.
- latchkey 5y agoOne neat thing is that it has what I call the "oh shit button". If you feel like you're going to crash, hit the button and disables manual mode, rights itself and hovers in place. Near immediately. As long as you have your finger on that button (and practice using it), it is a pretty safe way to learn. Best to go in manual mode with a bit of height and in an open area first too.
- HellsMaddy 5y agoThis product page is phenomenal. Kudos to the frontend engineers, designers, and artists.
- danappelxx 5y agoLooks amazingly like launches on apple.com
- askafriend 5y agoIt's a direct and very shameless rip of Apple's website. Down to the color choices and animation styles.
- cmauniada 5y agoI don’t know why you’re being downvoted but yes it is. Good artists copy. Great artists steal. - cmauniada
- mechanical_bear 5y agoThis is my shocked face that a Chinese company would blatantly rip off an American company. •_•
- us0r 5y agoThey don't need to rip off anything... we hand it all to them.
- jsmeaton 5y agoUnsure if I'm just using it wrong, but with a scrollwheel on desktop the jank is *awful*. Same goes with the Apple marketing release sites.
- krick 5y agoTotally off-topic, but where did the idea come from that landing sites are supposed to look like that? How am I even supposed to navigate this fucking thing? It's so frustrating when I try to scroll and objects start flying around frantically in random directions, then there are about 5 screens with literally no information, then a fading label appears that requires trying really hard to bring it into focus. Did they sell me Mavic 3? No fucking way, I (quite literally) didn't even find it on their page. And it's not like DJI have especially bad landing page for Mavic, it's no less that every third landing site looks like that nowadays. So, how do they all come up with the same nonsense? And when will this stop?
- throaway46546 5y agoI hate this style of design as well, but there is a buy now button on the top right the entire time.
- krick 5y agoI'm afraid "selling" requires a bit more than showing me a "Buy Now" button. At least in my case, you are also supposed to show me the product.
- sk0g 5y agoThis landing page format is essentially a slightly interactive video ad, where you have control over when the next section plays. It's a lot more sensible on phones, though I usually look for a way to GTFO and be served some plain old HTML!
- Tronno 5y ago> Please don't complain about website formatting, back-button breakage, and similar annoyances. From the HN guidelines. I'd rather read about the drone.
- irthomasthomas 5y agoIn this case I think it's a custom more honoured in the breach than the observance. Those wanting to read about the drone, have to first learn to navigate this bizare and hostile UI.
- EastOfTruth 5y agoI hate these kind of web pages
- christoph 5y agoI think the real drone market is in the sub 250g area. Flying anything above this is legally a serious pain in most jurisdictions. I spent days researching it, sure you can get away with it, which I hazard a guess many, many people do. You can buy these classes of drone on Amazon with no licence checks. In most of Europe, legally, there is a very, very limited market for this drone IMO. They shouldn’t market it as a hobbyist product, because legally it really isn’t in that category. I’m sure I’ll get downvotes but.. I would love to fly this, but legally I know it would be very very problematic beyond what the slash page sells me. As an example, a friend bought a similar class drone on Amazon and was shocked when I told him that legally he couldn’t fly it anywhere within London, where he lives. Most people don’t read the rules and regulations.
- gpt5 5y agoIn the US, the only “benefit” of weighing less than 250g, is that recreational pilots don’t need to register the drone. All other regulation applies.
- causi 5y agoAlmost, but not quite. In the US you're legally beholden to fly according to the guidelines of a "community-based organization", which often include generic guidelines like "don't fly wrecklessly" and "don't pose a danger to people, vehicles, animals, or disturb the peace". Should someone call the police on you, it's easier to argue your compliance when your drone is tiny than when it's big. Smaller also tends to be quieter, so you disturb people less and are less likely to get in trouble in the first place.
- wizardofaz 5y ago“Smaller tends to be quieter” Not true in this case. Smaller tends to have higher pitched prop noise which is much more noticeable and annoying to the people around. The larger mavics have larger props that produce a lower pitch noise which blends in much more easily.
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- aliswe 5y agoDJI has very nice hardware, but the app was really off-putting for me ...
- axegon_ 5y agoLet's be realistic: those specs are more in the realm of professional photographers/videographers. For most people, a DJI mini 2 is far more than sufficient(which is what I have and just came back from shooting a few pictures and videos actually). Even a small one like this punches way above it's weight category, literally and figuratively.
- Filligree 5y agoOr if you want to photograph remotely. The Mavic 2 has a practical range limit of a few km, and essentially ignores wind; this means I can use it in mountainous terrain where the mini would be far outside its usable range. Avid hiker, amateur photographer. Most people wouldn’t be able to legally do that; the majority of Europe has people everywhere. An out-of-sight drone license isn’t super difficult to get, but you do need to invest some time.
- schleck8 5y agoAnd as usual all the leaks were real. DJI truly is the most leaked tech company ever
- andresp 5y agoNow they just need to explain why they stopped updating their app in the play store and force everyone to download it from their site.
- soylentcola 5y agoCan't speak to the validity of the explanation, but they claim there's a bug in their SDK that is keeping them from distributing the app in the newly required .aab format (as opposed to the .apk they had previously been updating). Then there's also the possibility that they either don't feel like being beholden to an app store or there's some part of the app that wouldn't pass muster on the Play Store. No idea, really. I don't have any DJI products, but it would be interesting if the reason has something to do with app functionality (as opposed to just being too cheap/lazy to update the SDK or wanting to bypass the approval process).
- andresp 5y agoWe can speculate all we want, but there was no official communication from DJI to their customers, which shows their disregard for their clients.
- sytelus 5y agoHow does this compare to Skydio?
- schleck8 5y agoIt's geared towards filmmakers, Skydio is rather action/autonomy focused with its tracking
- simonebrunozzi 5y agoI have to share something about DJI. Few months ago my brand-new DJI FPS drone was stolen from my room, together with an iPad, a wallet, a few important documents. As you might know, all drones heavier than 250g have a transponder. DJI could have helped me find where the drone was, and more importantly, where the other stuff was. I reported the theft to the local police, then reached out to DJI multiple times, using multiple channels. You can guess where the story goes: NOTHING from them. Some thieves are walking freely because these a*holes don't want to help me recover my drone. I feel powerless: the law should force them to collaborate with the police in matters like these, but it only (maybe) happens for very violent crimes. If anyone from DJI is reading this: your company sucks.
- ricardobeat 5y agoWhat about Find My on the iPad? That’s something you have access to yourself
- simonebrunozzi 5y agoYep. The stolen iPad (and iWatch) ended up in Tunisia (the theft happened in Italy). Not worth the effort.
- Raed667 5y agoThis problem is so severe, that Tunisia recently required all "imported" phones to be registered [0] with the state within 3 months or they can't use the phone network. I guess that moved the incentives towards iWatches and iPads and such. If the drone ended up in Tunisia as well, there is a very good chance that it was confiscated by the police, since drone usage is very restricted all over the country. [0] https://www.sajalni.tn https://www.sajalni.tn
- ricardobeat 5y agoWould the cost of the drone be enough to get you to travel to Tunisia? I don't see the desired outcome here.
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- prawn 5y agoInterested in opinions from other drone operators in picking a Mavic 3. I already have a Mavic 1, two Mavic 2s and a Mini 2. I photograph and film mostly tourism content. I'm interested in getting 50fps+ at 4K but with good stability in the wind (which I'm not sure the Air2S has). There's a solid jump from the base to flymore - $800. I need the batteries, need filters, need the charger but don't care about the bag. Batteries are $420 for two. Charging hub is $90. Filters $180. Cine is $5k. For the $2k jump, it gives more filters (never used higher than ND16), pro controller, SSD and ProRes. SSD would be handy, but I fly over the ocean a bit and frequently change microSDs to "bank" good footage I don't want to lose if the drone drops or hits a bird. I'd be keen to get the smart controller. Does ProRes give enough to justify the cost (editing and grading performance, etc)? Currently leaning towards the base, filters, charging options, smart controller and then a few batteries. Alternatively, I already have two iPad minis I use now, so I could stick with the default controller and keep using those. The new RC Pro is US$1,200! Thoughts?
- RNCTX 5y agoPlus the cost of a pretty high end desktop to grade the footage. And the cost of a pretty high end NAS to store the footage, sending it around to cloud services isn't feasible due to the file sizes. Hint: ZFS is your friend here. If you can't back up data you have to make the medium bulletproof (as much as possible). (I have no film production background personally but I did spec out a NAS setup for someone who does, just for them to cost analyze what it would look like to take RAW filming on the road with them to out of the way places, so I've seen the numbers once)
- prawn 5y agoMy M1 MBP is coping far better than my previous MBP. Worst case, I switch off the grade when I'm checking pacing/flow/timeline stuff, and I'm less concerned with those things if I'm doing the grade itself. Will get worse if 5K is the norm. I was mostly filming 2.7K@50, now 4K@25. Would ideally pick at least 4K@50. I bought 25TB in portable drives this week for a multi-month project. I have 3x 4-bay NAS boxes that I archive to, and then day-to-day I am connected directly to 7 external drives (3x 2-4TB standard drives, and 4x 0.5-1TB SSDs to work from). Sick of the cables and ejecting drives each time I move between home and office!
- joejohns 5y agoI'm calling it, our first flying cars will be in drones.
- comeonseriously 5y agoI'm calling it, we're never going to have flying cars. You're probably right about the drone part, though. You drive your car to a parking lot outside of the city and wait on a drone to drop you at work in the city.
- Brosper 5y agoWhy this is on HN? This isn't a modified Mavic or this news don't improve my knowledge and isn't any topic to talk about.
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- cyral 5y agoI wish DJI would make their products more repairable. The gimbal mount on my Mavic Air 2 broke partially, and I can easily see how to fix it myself if I had a replacement. I had hobby drones in the past where you could order (or even go to a hobby shop) and get spare parts, and DIY repair was a huge part of owning it. Turns out the only way to repair the mount is to send it in to an authorized repair center for them to replace the entire gimbal and camera at a high cost. I resorted to using super glue for now.
- aix1 5y agoNo CE class label??? edit: Found this, which somewhat explains it: https://dronedj.com/2021/11/05/dji-mavic-3-ce-class-label/ https://dronedj.com/2021/11/05/dji-mavic-3-ce-class-label/