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As someone who lived in China for years I fail to see what's the news here exactly? It would be strange, if as CCP official he didn't use his position to do thi
by Markoff 5y ago
As someone who lived in China for years I fail to see what's the news here exactly? It would be strange, if as CCP official he didn't use his position to do this and other criminal acts. You better write articles about not doing it, those will be actually shocking revelations.
- FooBarWidget 5y agoHasn't the anti-corruption campaign improved things?
- Markoff 5y agoyou mean the Removing inconvenient wings/competitors in CCP campaign? anti-coruption campaign LOL
- FooBarWidget 5y agoPlease be more specific. Regardless of whether there was a secondary motive of purging political opponents, are you saying that it was ineffective in actually addressing corruption? Can you show some data?
- Markoff 5y agoit's ineffective if you replace one corrupted opponent with corrupted friend, that's not anti-coruption campaign by my standards, that's just purging opponents, because you are not really improving things, makes almost as much sense as war on drugs
- FooBarWidget 5y agoWhere is the data that shows that the replacements are also corrupt?
- Markoff 5y agogood luck finding data in China, where even own premier doesn't believe them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Keqiang_index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Keqiang_index
- FooBarWidget 5y agoOkay so your opinion is complete speculation. Got it.
- Markoff 5y agoyes, complete speculation and years of dealing with chinese offices and businesses
- nradov 5y agoThat's like asking for data on the levels of corruption in a mafia family. No one is allowed to gather such data, but it's pretty obvious that the corruption at higher levels approaches 100%.
- FooBarWidget 5y agoThat assertion rests on the assumption that the Chinese government is like a mafia family. That premise requires evidence. As I mentioned in another reply to you, I disagree with this premise and I gave my reasons why. I even question the assertion that no one is allowed to gather data about the government's conduct or performance. The research "Sources of Authoritarian Responsiveness: A Field Experiment in China" [1] did exactly this. [1] https://china.ucsd.edu/_files/pe-2014/10062014_Paper_Jen_Pan.pdf https://china.ucsd.edu/_files/pe-2014/10062014_Paper_Jen_Pan...
- AussieWog93 5y agoFrom what I've heard, purging opponents was not the secondary motive but the primary.
- FooBarWidget 5y agoI think of it rather as killing two birds in one stone.
- bmn__ 5y ago> what's the news here exactly? News was allowed to get out to the point that one could hear about that on abroad platforms. Usually anything that rocks the proverbial boat gets censored without trace. Either there was a fuck-up of epic proportions with several fail-safes in a row not triggering, or (conspiracy theory) this is on purpose to "bury"/distract from more important news or to discredit Zhang so he can be removed easier by his enemies.
- Markoff 5y agojudging by Chinese politics I would say B is right, he must became inconvenient, I'd not say distract staight away