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> Peng says Zhang did not contact her for several years after the initial assault. But in 2018, the year Zhang retired from the government, Peng claims he got b
by aborsy 5y ago
> Peng says Zhang did not contact her for several years after the initial assault. But in 2018, the year Zhang retired from the government, Peng claims he got back in touch with her and the two began a tumultuous but consensual romantic relationship which ended when he cut off all contact.
The story is a bit confusing. Sometimes it’s romantic, sometimes it’s not. There is also consent mixed in, that fluctuates.
- lrem 5y agoYup, humans can be complicated :/
- garbagetime 5y agoMaybe I missed something, but wasn't confusing for me. He sexually assaulted her, then at some later point in time they had a consensual relationship. There's not a contradiction there.
- Mandelmus 5y agoWhy did she consent to a relationship after having been raped and traumatised by him before?
- robinduckett 5y agoGee, I wonder why.
- diob 5y agoWhy do folks stay in abusive relationships or situations? Humans are complicated. I can't explain their point of view or the context, but I'm sure there's a reason. Sometimes it can be financial even. Trauma is a hell of a thing. Think about kids who've been abused by their parents. They typically still can't help but try and earn their love. Human brains are. . . fucky, to say the least.
- raducu 5y ago> Why? Why does Stockholm syndrome exist? Because it benefits survival in a violent world. Not politically correct, and absolutely not condoning violence, but a lot of women have a deep primeval sexual response(they lubricate) to displays of physical strength, dominance, aggression and violence.
- hello4353 5y ago"they lubricate". The same applies to some men(dominatrix, mistress, bdsm). How to reason this? My point is this is not gender specific.
- raducu 5y agoCan you explain how men lubricate? I'm not sure why people get triggered by anybody mentioning these facts. Do you think that I or others are saying women should have no agency because they lubricate or "worse" have orgasms during rape? > My point is this is not gender specific I think the only stuff that is firewalled into gender specificity could be stuff that's in the Y chromosome, and even that would be debatable.
- ceejayoz 5y ago> Why does Stockholm syndrome exist? It might not. https://twitter.com/sezmohammed/status/1252500993972948992 https://twitter.com/sezmohammed/status/1252500993972948992
- raducu 5y agoWhat about occam's razor? I mean, setting aside the insinuations of woke individuals. Does Stockholm syndrome exist? No doubt in my mind that it exists from the Sabine Women to the Abduction at Shiloh and every ancient siege aftermath to the war brides of WW2, the evidence is overwhelming.
- ceejayoz 5y ago
- true_religion 5y agoWhy did a powerful communist party leader manage to get “consent” from someone he previously raped… well probably because despite resigning, he still retained the power, money and influence to make other people cower before him. One could easily go into this so called consensual relationship thinking that by not resisting they are at least not getting hurt.
- csomar 5y ago> He sexually assaulted her, then at some later point in time they had a consensual relationship. I understand that the consensual relationship doesn't rule out the sexual assault. I do have, however, trouble digesting such relations. Is it normal that people get into relations with other people that they intend to take to court?
- louhike 5y ago"Is it normal?" just sounds like you saying "it isn't normal, she did something bad", almost putting the guilt on her. The thing is, it's just of no importance. We do not have the whole context, she might have loved him or saw an interest in the relationship, but it does not matter for this. It does not change the crime of the sexual assault.
- secondaryacct 5y agoI disagree. Yes the law is the law and he should not have raped her, but she also should have had the moral fortitude not to then get into an affair with him. The guy checks all the boxes, and will have to be punished, but giving the appearance of a scorned mistress doesn't help her convince something so wrong happened a decade ago. But, no need to be perfect to he heard, and she'll have to have her chance.
- krageon 5y ago> she also should have had the moral fortitude not to then get into an affair with him. > giving the appearance of a scorned mistress doesn't help her convince Given that we are certain both of those things can exist together, the case must at least be investigated. People should not have to be punished (or disbelieved) for being what they are: imperfect beings.
- posterboy 5y agoGP: > "Is it normal?" just sounds like you saying "it isn't normal, she did something bad", almost putting the guilt on her. You: > I disagree. Also you: > she also should have had the moral fortitude not to ... This seems to be a contradiction, unless you disagree on some metalevel, disagreeing with the course of events in general.
- baybal2 5y agoA consensual relationship in between an 18 years old, and a 58yr grandpa? Something not right there.
- tremon 5y agoFamilial relationships are never consensual.
- voidskull 5y agoThis plot is similar to Chinese "dog-blood romance" (that's what they call it, when its translated to English) novels which I've read, quite often.