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I guess this site should be sent to anybody saying javascript should be blocked in web browsers... In the end whether a technology is used to track and exploit

I guess this site should be sent to anybody saying javascript should be blocked in web browsers... In the end whether a technology is used to track and exploit or educate and delight is entirely up to us.

nixpulvis 5y ago
Aren't most things neatly placed in <canvas> tags? Not to mention that it's basically all some form of web GL, which could avoid JS pretty easily is it wanted to these days. What we want blocked isn't all of javascript, it's some of the browser APIs.
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  You definitely can’t use canvas (or any DOM API) without JS. The idea of using WebAssembly for WebGL (or canvas via whatever JS bridge) almost certainly won’t satisfy a large portion of the no-JS crowd, whose opposition to JS is opposition to the browser as an application platform generally.
- Kiro 5y ago
  How would WebGL work without JavaScript? Also have a hard time seeing how the input could be handled without JS.
  - nixpulvis 5y ago
    https://webassembly.org/ https://webassembly.org/ Again, it's all about the interface the browser provides. They could decide to remove this API for example: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/History https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/History
    - bigbillheck 5y ago
      > https://webassembly.org/ https://webassembly.org/ How is that any better than 'javascript'?
    - zamadatix 5y ago
      The "no js" crowd isn't about language wars rather client side programmability. As such WASM is only a superset for this conversation, not an alternative.
    - Kiro 5y ago
      No, you're talking about something completely different, so saying "what we want" and "it's all about" is simply incorrect.
    - deleted 5y ago
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- streamofdigits 5y ago
  Haven't even started exploring everything (hope to find the time to do so), but in random dive I see lots of handcrafted js https://ciechanow.ski/js/gears.js https://ciechanow.ski/js/gears.js
nyanpasu64 5y ago
JavaScript being enabled should be the exception, not the rule.
- amelius 5y ago
  I try to visit only quality websites, like the article's. Enabling JS on every website I visit seems backward.

nixpulvis 5y ago

Aren't most things neatly placed in <canvas> tags? Not to mention that it's basically all some form of web GL, which could avoid JS pretty easily is it wanted to these days. What we want blocked isn't all of javascript, it's some of the browser APIs.

eyelidlessness 5y ago
You definitely can’t use canvas (or any DOM API) without JS. The idea of using WebAssembly for WebGL (or canvas via whatever JS bridge) almost certainly won’t satisfy a large portion of the no-JS crowd, whose opposition to JS is opposition to the browser as an application platform generally.
Kiro 5y ago
How would WebGL work without JavaScript? Also have a hard time seeing how the input could be handled without JS.
- nixpulvis 5y ago
  https://webassembly.org/ https://webassembly.org/ Again, it's all about the interface the browser provides. They could decide to remove this API for example: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/History https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/History
  - bigbillheck 5y ago
    > https://webassembly.org/ https://webassembly.org/ How is that any better than 'javascript'?
  - zamadatix 5y ago
    The "no js" crowd isn't about language wars rather client side programmability. As such WASM is only a superset for this conversation, not an alternative.
  - Kiro 5y ago
    No, you're talking about something completely different, so saying "what we want" and "it's all about" is simply incorrect.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
streamofdigits 5y ago
Haven't even started exploring everything (hope to find the time to do so), but in random dive I see lots of handcrafted js https://ciechanow.ski/js/gears.js https://ciechanow.ski/js/gears.js

nyanpasu64 5y ago

JavaScript being enabled should be the exception, not the rule.

amelius 5y ago
I try to visit only quality websites, like the article's. Enabling JS on every website I visit seems backward.