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Edge has built in support for vertical tabs, tab groups, and chrome extensions. IMHO, Edge is the best chromium based browser out there, and for me is miles be

Edge has built in support for vertical tabs, tab groups, and chrome extensions. IMHO, Edge is the best chromium based browser out there, and for me is miles better than Chrome itself.

adar 5y ago
> Edge has built in support for vertical tabs, tab groups, and chrome extensions. IMO Vivaldi's implementations of vertical tabs and tab groups is superior, but Edge is definitely a close second.
5e92cb50239222b 5y ago
FWIW, Vivaldi has all of these also.
- zamadatix 5y ago
  I love Vivaldi feature wise but something about its implementation absolutely wrecks performance and memory usage compared to traditional chromium based browsers. Even disabling most every option and interface doodad I could find with no extensions loaded results in noticeably slower browsing vs other browsers defaults and it carries over into the benchmark results as well, things like Speedometer 2.0 get significantly lower scores and total RAM usage during the test is much higher.
GhettoComputers 5y ago
That sounds good, but I don't want MS tracking on my linux box, I lived without those and I can wait a bit longer for ungoogled chromium to get them (maybe).
hbn 5y ago
You'll also be dealing with constant prompts and alerts from Microsoft to try Bing and redeem Bing Rewards and install smartphone apps to integrate with your Microsoft account, and them adding more spammy news articles and ads in the new tab page and Googling how to disable them, etc. It's gotten so bad the past few months that after a year of using Edge, it finally pushed me back to Chrome as of yesterday
- plushpuffin 5y ago
  You're not kidding, I just opened Edge to see if I would notice any prompts, and it immediately threw up a popup in the middle of my screen asking to set it as the default browser and change my search to Bing (with "yes" selected by default, obviously). I use it rarely but I know that I've told it no before. It looks like it's configured to ask periodically.
  - croutonwagon 5y ago
    It could be on launch if not run in x time as well... I used chredge for work only and occaisonal validation on personal side. And if i dont launch edge for a while ill see the prompts, but if i use it daily...i dont.
  - hbn 5y ago
    The other thing that cemented my decision to switch from Edge was when I went to set my default browser from the Windows settings, and upon selecting Chrome it gave me some pathetic, last-ditch prompt that said something like (extreme paraphrasing, but it was the idea): "Are you sure? Edge is much better now!" If I was having second thoughts before, I'm definitely not now.
    - jsrcout 5y ago
      I hate software that begs.
  - phendrenad2 5y ago
    Don't all browsers do this? Even Firefox asks to be your default browser when you first open it... and then every time there's an update it conveniently "forgets" this preference so you get asked again.
  - naikrovek 5y ago
    Chrome does the EXACT SAME THING, periodically, just like Edge, and no one gives Google any crap for it. no one gives Google any grief for the things they're doing. they're just as bad, if not worse, than MS was in the 1990s, when MS was at their absolute worst. it's amazing how blind people are.
e12e 5y ago
> IMHO, Edge is the best chromium based browser out there Closed source web browser? Not really all that interested tbh.
- drdeca 5y ago
  Sure, but, while presumably very similar, isn’t the source for chrome slightly different from the open-source chromium, and not public? (Does chrome have a setting to disable all DRM plugins like firefox does?)
  - e12e 5y ago
    This is (one reason) why I run chromium, not chrome. Opera at least used to have a (fast, standards compliant) unique render engine and a snappy email client. Beyond IE-mode, I don't se why I would prefer Edge to Chromium. That said, I'm happy to see first party support for Linux. But for me, being able to run SQL Server is much more useful than Edge.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Closed source with MS tracking and spying from the network logs. There seems to be an army of MS fanbois that angrily downvote any comments critical of crappy MS products in the thread.
  - _fat_santa 5y ago
    I freaking love the new Edge browser, but I only use it on my work machine where I could care less about spying and tracking. I really hope that MS will open source the edge browser at some point. I would love a "Edgium" or "UnMicrosofted" version of Edge that I can use on personal machines. Vertical tabs are awesome.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      Probably not as good but https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tree-style-tab/oicakdoenlelpjnkoljnaakdofplkgnd https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tree-style-tab/oic... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/verticaltabs/imimolldggofidcmfdkcffpjcgaggoaf https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/verticaltabs/imimo...
kitsunesoba 5y ago
Edge's implementation of vertical tabs is probably the best I've seen yet. You can get something similar in Firefox with extensions and userchrome edits, but custom userchrome can't be relied on since they're removing it at some point, and vertical tab extensions without the userchrome edits are very awkward (redundant tab bar, stupid sidebar header that can't be hidden). I really wish some FOSS browser would clone Edge's setup. Preferably something built with Gecko or WebKit to help oppose Chromium hegemony.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  I was arguing that WebKit was not a Monopoly but he grouped WebKit and Blink together, interesting you see them separately. You can just download a config for firefox, pretty sure Chrome still can't do rows of tabs.
  - kitsunesoba 5y ago
    WebKit and Blink have diverged quite substantially at this point and have several large differences. One is that WebKit is more geared toward embedding in applications using whatever UI framework and language whereas Blink is more married to Chromium. Firefox configs like you mention are possible only because of custom userchrome, which Mozilla has indicated intent to remove sooner than later.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      Suprised that WebKit is better, wonder why Blink is being used in VScode.
      - TingPing 5y ago
        Its not better, its different. Anyway vscode just uses electron, and electron wants the modern Google web.
- blondin 5y ago
  i literally use edge daily because of the vertical tabs. i don't know where i can submit feedback or if the edge team will ever read them. but when the vertical tabs are minimized the auto-expand on hovering is very distracting and almost never needed.
peakaboo 5y ago
Switching from Google to Microsoft - what a choice! :)
hulitu 5y ago
It has also builtin telemetry and running with elevated priviledges.

Edge has built in support for vertical tabs, tab groups, and chrome extensions. IMHO, Edge is the best chromium based browser out there, and for me is miles better than Chrome itself.

adar 5y ago

> Edge has built in support for vertical tabs, tab groups, and chrome extensions. IMO Vivaldi's implementations of vertical tabs and tab groups is superior, but Edge is definitely a close second.

5e92cb50239222b 5y ago

FWIW, Vivaldi has all of these also.

zamadatix 5y ago
I love Vivaldi feature wise but something about its implementation absolutely wrecks performance and memory usage compared to traditional chromium based browsers. Even disabling most every option and interface doodad I could find with no extensions loaded results in noticeably slower browsing vs other browsers defaults and it carries over into the benchmark results as well, things like Speedometer 2.0 get significantly lower scores and total RAM usage during the test is much higher.

GhettoComputers 5y ago

That sounds good, but I don't want MS tracking on my linux box, I lived without those and I can wait a bit longer for ungoogled chromium to get them (maybe).

hbn 5y ago

You'll also be dealing with constant prompts and alerts from Microsoft to try Bing and redeem Bing Rewards and install smartphone apps to integrate with your Microsoft account, and them adding more spammy news articles and ads in the new tab page and Googling how to disable them, etc. It's gotten so bad the past few months that after a year of using Edge, it finally pushed me back to Chrome as of yesterday

plushpuffin 5y ago
You're not kidding, I just opened Edge to see if I would notice any prompts, and it immediately threw up a popup in the middle of my screen asking to set it as the default browser and change my search to Bing (with "yes" selected by default, obviously). I use it rarely but I know that I've told it no before. It looks like it's configured to ask periodically.
- croutonwagon 5y ago
  It could be on launch if not run in x time as well... I used chredge for work only and occaisonal validation on personal side. And if i dont launch edge for a while ill see the prompts, but if i use it daily...i dont.
- hbn 5y ago
  The other thing that cemented my decision to switch from Edge was when I went to set my default browser from the Windows settings, and upon selecting Chrome it gave me some pathetic, last-ditch prompt that said something like (extreme paraphrasing, but it was the idea): "Are you sure? Edge is much better now!" If I was having second thoughts before, I'm definitely not now.
  - jsrcout 5y ago
    I hate software that begs.
- phendrenad2 5y ago
  Don't all browsers do this? Even Firefox asks to be your default browser when you first open it... and then every time there's an update it conveniently "forgets" this preference so you get asked again.
- naikrovek 5y ago
  Chrome does the EXACT SAME THING, periodically, just like Edge, and no one gives Google any crap for it. no one gives Google any grief for the things they're doing. they're just as bad, if not worse, than MS was in the 1990s, when MS was at their absolute worst. it's amazing how blind people are.

e12e 5y ago

> IMHO, Edge is the best chromium based browser out there Closed source web browser? Not really all that interested tbh.

drdeca 5y ago
Sure, but, while presumably very similar, isn’t the source for chrome slightly different from the open-source chromium, and not public? (Does chrome have a setting to disable all DRM plugins like firefox does?)
- e12e 5y ago
  This is (one reason) why I run chromium, not chrome. Opera at least used to have a (fast, standards compliant) unique render engine and a snappy email client. Beyond IE-mode, I don't se why I would prefer Edge to Chromium. That said, I'm happy to see first party support for Linux. But for me, being able to run SQL Server is much more useful than Edge.
GhettoComputers 5y ago
Closed source with MS tracking and spying from the network logs. There seems to be an army of MS fanbois that angrily downvote any comments critical of crappy MS products in the thread.
- _fat_santa 5y ago
  I freaking love the new Edge browser, but I only use it on my work machine where I could care less about spying and tracking. I really hope that MS will open source the edge browser at some point. I would love a "Edgium" or "UnMicrosofted" version of Edge that I can use on personal machines. Vertical tabs are awesome.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Probably not as good but https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tree-style-tab/oicakdoenlelpjnkoljnaakdofplkgnd https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tree-style-tab/oic... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/verticaltabs/imimolldggofidcmfdkcffpjcgaggoaf https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/verticaltabs/imimo...

kitsunesoba 5y ago

Edge's implementation of vertical tabs is probably the best I've seen yet. You can get something similar in Firefox with extensions and userchrome edits, but custom userchrome can't be relied on since they're removing it at some point, and vertical tab extensions without the userchrome edits are very awkward (redundant tab bar, stupid sidebar header that can't be hidden). I really wish some FOSS browser would clone Edge's setup. Preferably something built with Gecko or WebKit to help oppose Chromium hegemony.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
I was arguing that WebKit was not a Monopoly but he grouped WebKit and Blink together, interesting you see them separately. You can just download a config for firefox, pretty sure Chrome still can't do rows of tabs.
- kitsunesoba 5y ago
  WebKit and Blink have diverged quite substantially at this point and have several large differences. One is that WebKit is more geared toward embedding in applications using whatever UI framework and language whereas Blink is more married to Chromium. Firefox configs like you mention are possible only because of custom userchrome, which Mozilla has indicated intent to remove sooner than later.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Suprised that WebKit is better, wonder why Blink is being used in VScode.
    - TingPing 5y ago
      Its not better, its different. Anyway vscode just uses electron, and electron wants the modern Google web.
blondin 5y ago
i literally use edge daily because of the vertical tabs. i don't know where i can submit feedback or if the edge team will ever read them. but when the vertical tabs are minimized the auto-expand on hovering is very distracting and almost never needed.

peakaboo 5y ago

Switching from Google to Microsoft - what a choice! :)

hulitu 5y ago

It has also builtin telemetry and running with elevated priviledges.