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Nutrition isn’t poorly understood. If what you said was true, vegans wouldn’t need to take tests to check their micronutrient profile or need so many supplement

Nutrition isn’t poorly understood. If what you said was true, vegans wouldn’t need to take tests to check their micronutrient profile or need so many supplements. You have no evidence to support your claim, there has been 0 vegan civilizations; for good reason. There is no dimension where a vegan does not need to check their iron levels and supplementation is a must: if you care about your health and getting what your ancestors did from meat.

ben_w 5y ago
If nutrition is as well understood as you claim when you criticise vegan diets (I don’t know, not my field), then we must also know how to create a vegan food item that can replace meat and dairy, and the question is then one of taste and cost.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  They made that a long time ago and achieved it (vegans that supplement), dog food like vegan products like Soylent exists. Although it exists you'll have to convince people to consume it since its not preferable.
  - ben_w 5y ago
    So you agree the question is then one of taste and cost.
    - GhettoComputers 5y ago
      No. The cost of soylent is not more expensive, and its taste is not bad. The problem is culture. You don't need to convince a progammmer who doesn't want to leave his computer. Vegans are/were also not convinced by taste or cost, that is not why they are vegan.
      - ben_w 5y ago
        If you don’t think it’s a question of taste and cost, why did you say in other threads: “They know. That is the hope, but the plant based ones are disgusting.”, “I ate some quorn, its rather good, but its overpriced and I would never buy the vegan one.”, “I found quorn (made with egg white) to be a 1:1 chicken breast replacement, but its much too expensive to be a real replacement.”, “I am not interested in a meat flavored veggie protein shake that is made of seed oils, costs more and is less nutritious. It’s disgusting.”
        GhettoComputers 5y ago
        I won’t be convinced to eat heavily processed food nor will I become vegan ever. Talking about their taste doesn’t mean it’s why I’m not vegan.
        ben_w 5y ago
        When did this become about you rather than about if society can accept a new food product?
        GhettoComputers 5y ago
        Search "you" in the thread. It has been that way since the beginning, in fact you started the thread doing so. I don't get the your logic of starting the thread talking about my opinions then asking when it became about me when you are literally talking to me about my opinions the entire thread, posting "So you agree the question is then one of taste and cost." and even dreging comments from other posts about my opinions. It is all about me.
krageon 5y ago
Checking the micronutrient profile is important and it does a lot, but absolutely 0 nutritional specialists will claim to you that this will solve your nutritional problems. That is why they tell you to have a "diverse" diet: It's a hedge against the fact that at the end of the day they have no idea what to do. All they can do is check a few markers and hope for the best.

ben_w 5y ago

If nutrition is as well understood as you claim when you criticise vegan diets (I don’t know, not my field), then we must also know how to create a vegan food item that can replace meat and dairy, and the question is then one of taste and cost.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
They made that a long time ago and achieved it (vegans that supplement), dog food like vegan products like Soylent exists. Although it exists you'll have to convince people to consume it since its not preferable.
- ben_w 5y ago
  So you agree the question is then one of taste and cost.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    No. The cost of soylent is not more expensive, and its taste is not bad. The problem is culture. You don't need to convince a progammmer who doesn't want to leave his computer. Vegans are/were also not convinced by taste or cost, that is not why they are vegan.
    - ben_w 5y ago
      If you don’t think it’s a question of taste and cost, why did you say in other threads: “They know. That is the hope, but the plant based ones are disgusting.”, “I ate some quorn, its rather good, but its overpriced and I would never buy the vegan one.”, “I found quorn (made with egg white) to be a 1:1 chicken breast replacement, but its much too expensive to be a real replacement.”, “I am not interested in a meat flavored veggie protein shake that is made of seed oils, costs more and is less nutritious. It’s disgusting.”
      - GhettoComputers 5y ago
        I won’t be convinced to eat heavily processed food nor will I become vegan ever. Talking about their taste doesn’t mean it’s why I’m not vegan.
        ben_w 5y ago
        When did this become about you rather than about if society can accept a new food product?
        GhettoComputers 5y ago
        Search "you" in the thread. It has been that way since the beginning, in fact you started the thread doing so. I don't get the your logic of starting the thread talking about my opinions then asking when it became about me when you are literally talking to me about my opinions the entire thread, posting "So you agree the question is then one of taste and cost." and even dreging comments from other posts about my opinions. It is all about me.

krageon 5y ago

Checking the micronutrient profile is important and it does a lot, but absolutely 0 nutritional specialists will claim to you that this will solve your nutritional problems. That is why they tell you to have a "diverse" diet: It's a hedge against the fact that at the end of the day they have no idea what to do. All they can do is check a few markers and hope for the best.