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COVID the pandemic ended back in May when the vaccine was widely available. What we have today is COVID the Culture War, screaming about The Science, and narcis

COVID the pandemic ended back in May when the vaccine was widely available. What we have today is COVID the Culture War, screaming about The Science, and narcissists showing how much better they are at following The Rules than you. My daughter has spent nearly half her life wearing a mask 50 hours a week for a disease less risky to her than the Flu or RSV. The vaccine has a ~6x risk of myocarditis for her than COVID itself. Who does that protect? We squandered our opportunity to open up months ago. The vaccine apparently DOES rapidly lose efficacy, as more data has shown, and one political party wants a booster subscription model and outright refuses to commit to any sort of end.

1shooner 5y ago
>COVID the pandemic ended back in May This simply isn't true in my state. We had a significant spike in COVID patient hospitalizations and deaths starting in August. This is attributed by public health experts to the low vaccination rate in my state. I'm not sure if you count them among the culture warriors or narcissists.
DangitBobby 5y ago
It's sad to read that someone interprets my behavior, which is inconvenient for me but is mainly about keeping other people from getting hurt because I'm not in a high risk group, as narcissistic, somehow. You should try to reconsider what you think you know about the people who disagree with you, because you are absolutely incorrect and borderline delusional.
- angelzen 5y ago
  The narcissistic part comes when people boast on Twitter how they are doing their supreme civic duty by taking the vaccine, not like those disgusting filthy diseased barely human individuals that choose a different path. Take the vaccine for whatever reason you may, but there are very little reasons to publicly announce your superiority to others just because you did. Sadly, the vaccine doesn't do much to prevent infection, especially after a few months.
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- anthonygd 5y ago
  > You should try to reconsider what you think you know about the people who disagree with you, because you are absolutely incorrect and borderline delusional. You are doing exactly what you're insulting. Some self reflection is in order.
  - DangitBobby 5y ago
    They pretty much called me a narcissist so I'm not sure how you came by your conclusion.
    - angelzen 5y ago
      "narcissists showing how much better they are at following The Rules than you" He didn't though. Unless you do show off how much better you are at following The Rules on a regular basis. And yet you called him "borderline delusional".
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      - DangitBobby 5y ago
        > COVID the pandemic ended back in May when the vaccine was widely available. What we have today is COVID the Culture War So if you don't think the pandemic is over, you are on the wrong side of the "culture war". > screaming about The Science, and narcissists showing how much better they are at following The Rules than you. This could be Twitter people or it could be people wearing masks in public. You don't know what this person meant outside of the context provided here. Given how they think that all that remains is a culture war, I took it to mean people who don't think the pandemic is over, so they wear masks and continue to social distance (you know, because we want people to know we can follow rules). Regardless, it reads as though it was written to be intentionally inflamatory to people like me who do not think it's over, or, at least won't act as though it is until a plan is communicated. I think you know that it was inflammatory. So your reading of it to not not include me as its target of criticism is of no interest to me. If I said "idiots who respond to my comments" and you rightly pointed out that it's not nice to call people idiots, how would you respond to a third commenter saying "well, he's not talking about you, he's talking about idiots."
drekk 5y ago
Oh, the pandemic is over? Well I'm glad I heard it here on HN first. The 7-day average for COVID deaths is over 1,000, and nearly a million Americans have died (how many 9/11s is that?) but the pandemic is over because nearly 60% of our population took a free vaccine! Vaccines rapidly lose efficacy when the virus they target has free real estate (vectors) in which to mutate. The laughably slow vaccine uptake in the US (while the rest of the world couldn't secure doses) is to blame there, not anything else. Americans having to wear a cloth covering to keep their neighbors from catching something almost as contagious as measles is not a large ask, but here we are. It also protects against the flu and RSV since you're concerned about those—which is why the US didn't really have a flu season. Guess those couple hundred thousand deaths a year are preferable to masks when public outbreaks occur though. What I don't understand is the rest of the world has figured this out? Go ride the subway in Japan and no one struggles with this, just westerners who think thatdoing the bare minimum to prevent illness, hospitalizations, and even death impede on their manifest destiny / freedom / constitutional rights / etc
- didjathinkmess 5y ago
  >Vaccines rapidly lose efficacy when the virus they target has free real estate (vectors) in which to mutate. The finger pointing game really has to stop considering anyone vaccinated can contract, get sick from, act as a vector/petri dish, and consequently spread the mutated virus. Unvaccinated as well. >The laughably slow vaccine uptake in the US (while the rest of the world couldn't secure doses) is to blame there, not anything else. Instead of attempting to blame unvaccinated vectors for the poor vaccine performance, why not blame the actual culprit - the barely tested (with only ~200 clinical trial participants), rushed (sorry, expedited) vaccines?
- tinus_hn 5y ago
  > Americans having to wear a cloth covering to keep their neighbors from catching something almost as contagious as measles is not a large ask Cloth masks are so ineffective their effect is statistically invisible. Demanding others take ineffective measures because you find them a great token of virtue is in fact a large ask.
throwaway210222 5y ago
> My daughter has spent nearly half her life wearing a mask 50 hours a week for a disease less risky to her than the Flu or RSV Aw, shamples. Good. Because it is deadly my parents and me. You can fix your kids mood with an ice cream; You cannot fix dead people.

1shooner 5y ago

>COVID the pandemic ended back in May This simply isn't true in my state. We had a significant spike in COVID patient hospitalizations and deaths starting in August. This is attributed by public health experts to the low vaccination rate in my state. I'm not sure if you count them among the culture warriors or narcissists.

DangitBobby 5y ago

It's sad to read that someone interprets my behavior, which is inconvenient for me but is mainly about keeping other people from getting hurt because I'm not in a high risk group, as narcissistic, somehow. You should try to reconsider what you think you know about the people who disagree with you, because you are absolutely incorrect and borderline delusional.

angelzen 5y ago
The narcissistic part comes when people boast on Twitter how they are doing their supreme civic duty by taking the vaccine, not like those disgusting filthy diseased barely human individuals that choose a different path. Take the vaccine for whatever reason you may, but there are very little reasons to publicly announce your superiority to others just because you did. Sadly, the vaccine doesn't do much to prevent infection, especially after a few months.
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anthonygd 5y ago
> You should try to reconsider what you think you know about the people who disagree with you, because you are absolutely incorrect and borderline delusional. You are doing exactly what you're insulting. Some self reflection is in order.
- DangitBobby 5y ago
  They pretty much called me a narcissist so I'm not sure how you came by your conclusion.
  - angelzen 5y ago
    "narcissists showing how much better they are at following The Rules than you" He didn't though. Unless you do show off how much better you are at following The Rules on a regular basis. And yet you called him "borderline delusional".
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    - DangitBobby 5y ago
      > COVID the pandemic ended back in May when the vaccine was widely available. What we have today is COVID the Culture War So if you don't think the pandemic is over, you are on the wrong side of the "culture war". > screaming about The Science, and narcissists showing how much better they are at following The Rules than you. This could be Twitter people or it could be people wearing masks in public. You don't know what this person meant outside of the context provided here. Given how they think that all that remains is a culture war, I took it to mean people who don't think the pandemic is over, so they wear masks and continue to social distance (you know, because we want people to know we can follow rules). Regardless, it reads as though it was written to be intentionally inflamatory to people like me who do not think it's over, or, at least won't act as though it is until a plan is communicated. I think you know that it was inflammatory. So your reading of it to not not include me as its target of criticism is of no interest to me. If I said "idiots who respond to my comments" and you rightly pointed out that it's not nice to call people idiots, how would you respond to a third commenter saying "well, he's not talking about you, he's talking about idiots."

drekk 5y ago

Oh, the pandemic is over? Well I'm glad I heard it here on HN first. The 7-day average for COVID deaths is over 1,000, and nearly a million Americans have died (how many 9/11s is that?) but the pandemic is over because nearly 60% of our population took a free vaccine! Vaccines rapidly lose efficacy when the virus they target has free real estate (vectors) in which to mutate. The laughably slow vaccine uptake in the US (while the rest of the world couldn't secure doses) is to blame there, not anything else. Americans having to wear a cloth covering to keep their neighbors from catching something almost as contagious as measles is not a large ask, but here we are. It also protects against the flu and RSV since you're concerned about those—which is why the US didn't really have a flu season. Guess those couple hundred thousand deaths a year are preferable to masks when public outbreaks occur though. What I don't understand is the rest of the world has figured this out? Go ride the subway in Japan and no one struggles with this, just westerners who think thatdoing the bare minimum to prevent illness, hospitalizations, and even death impede on their manifest destiny / freedom / constitutional rights / etc

didjathinkmess 5y ago
>Vaccines rapidly lose efficacy when the virus they target has free real estate (vectors) in which to mutate. The finger pointing game really has to stop considering anyone vaccinated can contract, get sick from, act as a vector/petri dish, and consequently spread the mutated virus. Unvaccinated as well. >The laughably slow vaccine uptake in the US (while the rest of the world couldn't secure doses) is to blame there, not anything else. Instead of attempting to blame unvaccinated vectors for the poor vaccine performance, why not blame the actual culprit - the barely tested (with only ~200 clinical trial participants), rushed (sorry, expedited) vaccines?
tinus_hn 5y ago
> Americans having to wear a cloth covering to keep their neighbors from catching something almost as contagious as measles is not a large ask Cloth masks are so ineffective their effect is statistically invisible. Demanding others take ineffective measures because you find them a great token of virtue is in fact a large ask.

throwaway210222 5y ago

> My daughter has spent nearly half her life wearing a mask 50 hours a week for a disease less risky to her than the Flu or RSV Aw, shamples. Good. Because it is deadly my parents and me. You can fix your kids mood with an ice cream; You cannot fix dead people.