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I love children, but as a specie, we've secured our dominant position on this planet a long time ago. There's over 7 billion of us now. If children isn't your t

I love children, but as a specie, we've secured our dominant position on this planet a long time ago. There's over 7 billion of us now. If children isn't your thing, why bring some into the world, and risk neglecting them?

sliverstorm 15y ago
The main problems are these: 1) Due to social values, we build momentum. If marriage ceases to happen and children cease to be born, 50 years from now we won't have 50 million fewer people- we'll have 1 billion fewer people, and it will take decades to reverse the trend. (made-up numbers, but I hope you take my point) 2) It's not just about protecting the species. We have a tiny bit of a Ponzi scheme going. The young support the old, and as a result graphs like this: http://japanfocus.org/data/fig3.jpg http://japanfocus.org/data/fig3.jpg (Japan's population) As a taxpayer, make your blood run cold.
- pagekalisedown 15y ago
  1) I understand your point, but according to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population It only took a decade to go from 6 to 7 billion. We can build up a population in the blink of an eye. 2) Do parents have children to bring more tax payers into the world? :) Ponzi scheme or not, people taking the time to establish themselves first means fewer children, but also fewer neglected children.
  - sliverstorm 15y ago
    Do parents have children to bring more tax payers into the world? :) You say it like it's a silly idea, but not long ago people in America had children expressly for the purpose of helping around the farm, and in Asian cultures there is still an explicit overtone that parents have children so that they have someone to depend upon in old age. And by 'explicit overtone', I mean your parents say it to your face and you become a social pariah if you abandon your family- at least as best I understand it from my Asian friends.
    - mrphoebs 15y ago
      Agreed, in asia a family unit is not just parents and their children. It involves, grandparents, and great grandparents if they are around. It's not a "you have to take care of me" kind of a deal but something like "family takes care of itself" -> when you have kids, grandparents help out actively in raising them, then you are adults you help your parents, physicall, financially. Families often have assets stowed away as a collective unit.
jeremyswank 15y ago
surprisingly enough, 'species' is both the singular and plural form of the word.
rcthompson 15y ago
In what sense are we the dominant species?

sliverstorm 15y ago

The main problems are these: 1) Due to social values, we build momentum. If marriage ceases to happen and children cease to be born, 50 years from now we won't have 50 million fewer people- we'll have 1 billion fewer people, and it will take decades to reverse the trend. (made-up numbers, but I hope you take my point) 2) It's not just about protecting the species. We have a tiny bit of a Ponzi scheme going. The young support the old, and as a result graphs like this: http://japanfocus.org/data/fig3.jpg http://japanfocus.org/data/fig3.jpg (Japan's population) As a taxpayer, make your blood run cold.

pagekalisedown 15y ago
1) I understand your point, but according to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population It only took a decade to go from 6 to 7 billion. We can build up a population in the blink of an eye. 2) Do parents have children to bring more tax payers into the world? :) Ponzi scheme or not, people taking the time to establish themselves first means fewer children, but also fewer neglected children.
- sliverstorm 15y ago
  Do parents have children to bring more tax payers into the world? :) You say it like it's a silly idea, but not long ago people in America had children expressly for the purpose of helping around the farm, and in Asian cultures there is still an explicit overtone that parents have children so that they have someone to depend upon in old age. And by 'explicit overtone', I mean your parents say it to your face and you become a social pariah if you abandon your family- at least as best I understand it from my Asian friends.
  - mrphoebs 15y ago
    Agreed, in asia a family unit is not just parents and their children. It involves, grandparents, and great grandparents if they are around. It's not a "you have to take care of me" kind of a deal but something like "family takes care of itself" -> when you have kids, grandparents help out actively in raising them, then you are adults you help your parents, physicall, financially. Families often have assets stowed away as a collective unit.

jeremyswank 15y ago

surprisingly enough, 'species' is both the singular and plural form of the word.

rcthompson 15y ago

In what sense are we the dominant species?