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Discussed before, and brought up in comments: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22247292 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22247292 (this article, earl
by jodrellblank 5y ago
Discussed before, and brought up in comments:
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22247292 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22247292 (this article, earlier thread)
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22803484 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22803484 (comment by the author of the article)
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22512696 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22512696
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27963867 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27963867
One of those links was me mentioning it, and this got so under my skin it took Wacom's brand from "premium, respectable, best in class" to "untrustworthy, garbage, barrel scraping, avoid even if the alternatives function less well" in my head just instantly. Like Lenovo's "let's ship spyware with Thinkpads" did.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago> "Like Lenovo's "let's ship spyware with Thinkpads" did." I I did that, I'd be in jail. It's about time we'd started treating this as what it is: data theft and stalking.
- kibwen 5y ago> Like Lenovo's "let's ship spyware with Thinkpads" did. One hopes that companies would value their brand and reputation over some short-term profit (and yet nobody here is holding their breath). To this day I refuse to buy any Lenovo product, and as the tech guy in my family I warn everyone who asks from considering them at all.
- 7thaccount 5y agoSame. It only takes one mistake of that magnitude to lose me as a customer forever.
- breakingcups 5y agoI take it you both also boycott Sony Music Group?
- wizzwizz4 5y agoI mean… lots of people do. Personally, I've never bought from them; wouldn't really call it a boycott on my part, though.
- eliaspro 5y agoTook them off my "don't buy" list when my smartphone broke and I immediately needed a replacement and the only reasonable one available at my local store was a Sony Xperia XZS. I still regret it to this day. Worst 499€ ever spent.
- 7thaccount 5y agoFor the spyware/DRM on CDs in the early 2000's? It helps that I mostly just listen to music on YouTube. It's a little easier to remember to not buy something when you're buying a company product like "Lenovo" I guess than something nebulous like Sony Music.
- DaiPlusPlus 5y agoA sizeable chunk of artists you likely listen to are still part of Sony Music.
- kadoban 5y agoI still do. One rootkit per lifetime is enough. Probably has cost them $5000 by now from me.
- inside65 5y agoActually it hasn't cost them anything.
- B1FF_PSUVM 5y agoI haven't bought a Sony branded anything since 2000 or so. I almost forgot what it was about (yeah, the CD root kit and the battery-draining DRM shenanigans). I just put them out of consideration for any purchase. (Yeah, I know, "not really the same company, etc". It is, and it's the brand. Live by it, die by it.)
- 14 5y agoSadly I bought my son a Lenovo couple Christmas ago forgetting all about their crappy behaviour. Forget the spyware their build quality is just garbage. The hinges broke a few weeks after warranty so had to fix it myself. They look nice and shiny but once you use it for a bit can feel the cheapness. And this was an expensive gaming laptop. I am turned off of their products from that experience.
- userbinator 5y agoDid they actually do that to ThinkPads, or was it the much cheaper "consumer" IdeaPad line that had it? I seem to remember it was the latter.
- LeifCarrotson 5y agoIt was both; the Superfish malware was just the low end but later instances hit ThinkPads and Thinkcenters as well: https://www.computerworld.com/article/2984889/lenovo-collects-usage-data-on-thinkpad-thinkcentre-and-thinkstation-pcs.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/2984889/lenovo-collect...
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