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Start voting with your wallet. I think this is specific to Wacom tablets, but there are many vendors that provide Wacom hardware without their specific OS. I wo

Start voting with your wallet. I think this is specific to Wacom tablets, but there are many vendors that provide Wacom hardware without their specific OS. I wonder if there is a good open source ROM for drawing tablets?

JKCalhoun 5y ago
HUION is the larger "Cintiq-clone" product I have used, but I have no reason to believe their software is Boy Scout honest. Of course Apple's "Side Car" means your iPad is a pretty good tablet.
amelius 5y ago
Voting does not work if the majority of voters doesn't care.
- dylan604 5y ago
  I think it's slightly worse because I seriously doubt the majority of users are simply unware of something needing to be cared about. So they aren't just dubiously doing something, they are doing it knowing that most people won't know it is being done.
numpad0 5y ago
Wacom tablets are special purpose input devices, like Kensington trackballs or 3Dconnecxion SpaceMouse. What is needed is an open source Windows driver. Possible common choices for pen technologies are {Wacom EMR, Wacom AES, Microsoft Pen Protocol(formerly N-trig), Synaptic(unnamed?), Apple Pencil}. Apple Pencil and AES/MPP are well received on lower ends as well as for non-graphic purposes(especially note taking, where EMR is near unusable), so wallet voting can happen in markets for those, but nothing had replaced Wacom EMR in professional spaces if I understand right. That's why the company gets to keep pathetic 32", 4K, non-HDR, 310 nits, 1000:1 contrast, 98% Adobe RGB display for 4 grand as their absolute flagship product. Apple Pro Display XDR has same size of 32", but is 6K XDR(HDR), with up to 1000 nits brightness, has 1mil:1 contrast, has P3 wide color support, for 5 grand. Also I think it's worth considering how or where Wacom got this idea. As Wacom EMR pen market used to be a very stagnating space with zero competition until it had been incorporated into 1st- and 2nd-gen Surface only to be replaced by N-trig on Surface 3 onwards, I think it could be argued that it was that influx of capital that caused them realize they could "modernize" this way.
Kye 5y ago
Wacom is the best, in general. Huion gets 90% there for half or less of the price. They favor a different pressure curve that likely works well enough for most people while, I'm sure, saving on nibs and/or whatever's in the pen. The digitizer itself is equally or more accurate in positioning. While some people take an understandable but cynical view due to the close ties between most Chinese companies and the government, that's exactly why I don't worry. Any whiff of spying would be a diplomatic hazard. Think of the ruckus when Bloomberg accused Supermicro of installing spy chips for the Chinese government. https://9to5mac.com/2021/02/12/super-micro-spy-chip-story/ https://9to5mac.com/2021/02/12/super-micro-spy-chip-story/ Now imagine actual, confirmable spying. This would be the end to a huge part of Huion's business in markets it's worked hard to build a good reputation in for access to people who likely don't deal much in the kind of information a government wants to steal.

JKCalhoun 5y ago

HUION is the larger "Cintiq-clone" product I have used, but I have no reason to believe their software is Boy Scout honest. Of course Apple's "Side Car" means your iPad is a pretty good tablet.

amelius 5y ago

Voting does not work if the majority of voters doesn't care.

dylan604 5y ago
I think it's slightly worse because I seriously doubt the majority of users are simply unware of something needing to be cared about. So they aren't just dubiously doing something, they are doing it knowing that most people won't know it is being done.

numpad0 5y ago

Wacom tablets are special purpose input devices, like Kensington trackballs or 3Dconnecxion SpaceMouse. What is needed is an open source Windows driver. Possible common choices for pen technologies are {Wacom EMR, Wacom AES, Microsoft Pen Protocol(formerly N-trig), Synaptic(unnamed?), Apple Pencil}. Apple Pencil and AES/MPP are well received on lower ends as well as for non-graphic purposes(especially note taking, where EMR is near unusable), so wallet voting can happen in markets for those, but nothing had replaced Wacom EMR in professional spaces if I understand right. That's why the company gets to keep pathetic 32", 4K, non-HDR, 310 nits, 1000:1 contrast, 98% Adobe RGB display for 4 grand as their absolute flagship product. Apple Pro Display XDR has same size of 32", but is 6K XDR(HDR), with up to 1000 nits brightness, has 1mil:1 contrast, has P3 wide color support, for 5 grand. Also I think it's worth considering how or where Wacom got this idea. As Wacom EMR pen market used to be a very stagnating space with zero competition until it had been incorporated into 1st- and 2nd-gen Surface only to be replaced by N-trig on Surface 3 onwards, I think it could be argued that it was that influx of capital that caused them realize they could "modernize" this way.

Kye 5y ago

Wacom is the best, in general. Huion gets 90% there for half or less of the price. They favor a different pressure curve that likely works well enough for most people while, I'm sure, saving on nibs and/or whatever's in the pen. The digitizer itself is equally or more accurate in positioning. While some people take an understandable but cynical view due to the close ties between most Chinese companies and the government, that's exactly why I don't worry. Any whiff of spying would be a diplomatic hazard. Think of the ruckus when Bloomberg accused Supermicro of installing spy chips for the Chinese government. https://9to5mac.com/2021/02/12/super-micro-spy-chip-story/ https://9to5mac.com/2021/02/12/super-micro-spy-chip-story/ Now imagine actual, confirmable spying. This would be the end to a huge part of Huion's business in markets it's worked hard to build a good reputation in for access to people who likely don't deal much in the kind of information a government wants to steal.