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I would go further and ask for mandatory 24/7 surveillance of elected officials for transparency and to combat corruption every time they bring up this bullshit

I would go further and ask for mandatory 24/7 surveillance of elected officials for transparency and to combat corruption every time they bring up this bullshit.

jodrellblank 5y ago
In the UK the government introduced a "record of everyone's internet history" law and then exempted themselves from it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13087339 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13087339
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- snugghash 5y ago
  I just noticed that my jaw dropped for the first time in recent memory. Wow. Slow clap. UK, US, China... just wow
- easytiger 5y ago
  The particularly messed up thing about that and similar laws in the UK is they are made using cross party consensus
  - ootsootsoots 5y ago
    Because both parties benefit from the status quo The whole thing is still a pyramid scheme Trickle down is a euphemism for pissing on people They think in hierarchy and give us data structures like org charts to distribute that meme, manufacturing consent God on high, down to priests…etc…king on high…baron…etc…most people never learn to talk around the imagery. Futurists have been suggesting the fall of nation states is at hand as cities begin to chafe under outsider rule. Of course then you just have local hierarchy. I’m done seeing the public as capable political agents. The Roman Catholic notion everyone is their own moral agent has allowed people to think their actions only have consequences they choose them to have, as they optimize for increasingly specific stats with little real network value.
- BoxOfRain 5y ago
  Orwell was awfully prescient when he described the Inner Party as being able to turn off their telescreens.
- philjohn 5y ago
  They also conduct a LOT of government business over Whatsapp - and aren't keen about giving up the contents.
- raxxorrax 5y ago
  Same with the EU. Old continent doing things old minds do... It won't help them but will still do a lot of damage. And they wonder why people don't trust a single word they say. Poor representatives...
einpoklum 5y ago
Why combat corruption? It is a staple of the US' political system. And the US Supreme Court has all but ruled that corruption is speech.

I would go further and ask for mandatory 24/7 surveillance of elected officials for transparency and to combat corruption every time they bring up this bullshit.

jodrellblank 5y ago

In the UK the government introduced a "record of everyone's internet history" law and then exempted themselves from it. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13087339 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13087339

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snugghash 5y ago
I just noticed that my jaw dropped for the first time in recent memory. Wow. Slow clap. UK, US, China... just wow
easytiger 5y ago
The particularly messed up thing about that and similar laws in the UK is they are made using cross party consensus
- ootsootsoots 5y ago
  Because both parties benefit from the status quo The whole thing is still a pyramid scheme Trickle down is a euphemism for pissing on people They think in hierarchy and give us data structures like org charts to distribute that meme, manufacturing consent God on high, down to priests…etc…king on high…baron…etc…most people never learn to talk around the imagery. Futurists have been suggesting the fall of nation states is at hand as cities begin to chafe under outsider rule. Of course then you just have local hierarchy. I’m done seeing the public as capable political agents. The Roman Catholic notion everyone is their own moral agent has allowed people to think their actions only have consequences they choose them to have, as they optimize for increasingly specific stats with little real network value.
BoxOfRain 5y ago
Orwell was awfully prescient when he described the Inner Party as being able to turn off their telescreens.
philjohn 5y ago
They also conduct a LOT of government business over Whatsapp - and aren't keen about giving up the contents.
raxxorrax 5y ago
Same with the EU. Old continent doing things old minds do... It won't help them but will still do a lot of damage. And they wonder why people don't trust a single word they say. Poor representatives...

einpoklum 5y ago

Why combat corruption? It is a staple of the US' political system. And the US Supreme Court has all but ruled that corruption is speech.