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> Drop one of these in a Mcdonald's, and nobody’s going to expect a thing. You can leave it for days, while it collects data and marshals it back to your home n

> Drop one of these in a Mcdonald's, and nobody’s going to expect a thing. You can leave it for days, while it collects data and marshals it back to your home network. brave assumptions. it's will be gone in 30 minutes.

EastOfTruth 5y ago
Are you saying that you need to hide a USB thumb-drive in a wall charger instead?
agumonkey 5y ago
Order two game theoretic trick: fake a main socket device that is in fact a battery powered sniffing tool. Robber may willingly carry that thing in his home.
blamarvt 5y ago
Now, put it in a case like [1] this with USB pass-through and slap a "Property of McDonalds IT" sticker on it and I'm guessing you could keep it there for longer... [1] https://www.allelectronics.com/item/actx-1620/16-vac-20-va-wall-transformer/1.html https://www.allelectronics.com/item/actx-1620/16-vac-20-va-w...
xxs 5y ago
c'mon epoxy the thing to the outlet
ChuckNorris89 5y ago
Was thinking the same thing. Leaving stuff in public that resemble known consumer electronics will guarantee they perform disappearing acts ASAP. Ideally, you'd want something firmly attached to a wall, something that looks industrial/enterprisey, like it's an important part of the building alarm, water, power, HVAC or network system. Then people won't fuck with it. And when you're installing it, wear a brightly coloured safety vest, helmet, badge, clipboard, safety boots and a tool belt around your waist. That way you look super official and nobody will question you and I just made this stuff up, no guarantee that it'll work IRL :)
- proxysna 5y ago
  Anything that looks like it is attached to wall or just hidden from eyes, will have a lot more chances to avoid being stolen/reported. When i see one of the usb outlets with exposed screws in public the only thing that comes to mind is to partially disassemble the oulet and power the device from it leaving the device inside. There is much less of a chance that someone will report a partially malfunctioning USB outlet than someone snatching a free power brick. Never done anything like that with a public outlet, did something similiar with my personal hardware. Regarding size, Lichee Pi [0] comes to mind. [0] https://www.licheepizero.us/ https://www.licheepizero.us/
- Wulf_ 5y ago
  :( it's the second time today I've read the 'F' word on HN. I usually don't encounter it here which makes me like this community more. I'm not a leader of this community so my opinion doesn't matter but as a fellow human I'd like to request that you use another word to express yourself. I know this is subjective but I wanted to share this with you. In any case, I hope you have a good day :)
  - peterangular 5y ago
    Cursing is pretty common on here. Just re-read the guidelines and there's no rules against inappropriate language like the "f-word"... Especially when considering such a benign usage as the parent comment, ie: just replacing the verb in "mess with" which is not targeting the language at anyone/anything. It may not be as common as other platforms, but casual conversation does happen here which includes the occasional curse word. Just trying to inform - I'm sorry you're sensitive to it.
    - Wulf_ 5y ago
      Thanks for letting me know, I really appreciate it :)
      - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
        Keep in mind that you're not allowed to use any sort of colorful language when disagreeing with whatever the mainstream take on an issue is. Those people get down-voted and a bunch of "y u so mad" (but in better more relevant words, this is HN, not youtube comments) replies. Hooray for double standards.

EastOfTruth 5y ago

Are you saying that you need to hide a USB thumb-drive in a wall charger instead?

agumonkey 5y ago

Order two game theoretic trick: fake a main socket device that is in fact a battery powered sniffing tool. Robber may willingly carry that thing in his home.

blamarvt 5y ago

Now, put it in a case like [1] this with USB pass-through and slap a "Property of McDonalds IT" sticker on it and I'm guessing you could keep it there for longer... [1] https://www.allelectronics.com/item/actx-1620/16-vac-20-va-wall-transformer/1.html https://www.allelectronics.com/item/actx-1620/16-vac-20-va-w...

xxs 5y ago

c'mon epoxy the thing to the outlet

ChuckNorris89 5y ago

Was thinking the same thing. Leaving stuff in public that resemble known consumer electronics will guarantee they perform disappearing acts ASAP. Ideally, you'd want something firmly attached to a wall, something that looks industrial/enterprisey, like it's an important part of the building alarm, water, power, HVAC or network system. Then people won't fuck with it. And when you're installing it, wear a brightly coloured safety vest, helmet, badge, clipboard, safety boots and a tool belt around your waist. That way you look super official and nobody will question you and I just made this stuff up, no guarantee that it'll work IRL :)

proxysna 5y ago
Anything that looks like it is attached to wall or just hidden from eyes, will have a lot more chances to avoid being stolen/reported. When i see one of the usb outlets with exposed screws in public the only thing that comes to mind is to partially disassemble the oulet and power the device from it leaving the device inside. There is much less of a chance that someone will report a partially malfunctioning USB outlet than someone snatching a free power brick. Never done anything like that with a public outlet, did something similiar with my personal hardware. Regarding size, Lichee Pi [0] comes to mind. [0] https://www.licheepizero.us/ https://www.licheepizero.us/
Wulf_ 5y ago
:( it's the second time today I've read the 'F' word on HN. I usually don't encounter it here which makes me like this community more. I'm not a leader of this community so my opinion doesn't matter but as a fellow human I'd like to request that you use another word to express yourself. I know this is subjective but I wanted to share this with you. In any case, I hope you have a good day :)
- peterangular 5y ago
  Cursing is pretty common on here. Just re-read the guidelines and there's no rules against inappropriate language like the "f-word"... Especially when considering such a benign usage as the parent comment, ie: just replacing the verb in "mess with" which is not targeting the language at anyone/anything. It may not be as common as other platforms, but casual conversation does happen here which includes the occasional curse word. Just trying to inform - I'm sorry you're sensitive to it.
  - Wulf_ 5y ago
    Thanks for letting me know, I really appreciate it :)
    - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
      Keep in mind that you're not allowed to use any sort of colorful language when disagreeing with whatever the mainstream take on an issue is. Those people get down-voted and a bunch of "y u so mad" (but in better more relevant words, this is HN, not youtube comments) replies. Hooray for double standards.