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(Excuse the length; formatted it for readability.) Your guesses are all good (and by "classics" I meant the works of Seneca, Cicero et al). You'll also find m
by kashyapc 5y ago
(Excuse the length; formatted it for readability.)
Your guesses are all good (and by "classics" I meant the works of Seneca, Cicero et al). You'll also find many gems in the bibliography section of any book with real substance. A good author will share their sources. On why I recommend these: Many of these researchers spent years grappling with the said topics. They are "invested" in it, and to be charitable, were/are trying to arrive at truth, however imperfectly. Even when they get things wrong, these books are more likely to make us think than the vapid "books" by charlatans.
On Thinking, Fast and slow being hard to read: it is a hard read. For Pete's sake, the book asks you to grapple with probabilities, which we humans are terrible at. If you're trying to read Prospect Theory (a key idea from the book) in bed when tired, or in a noisy train station, you will be frustrated. Read it when you are fresh and are able to concentrate well.
Note though, none of these books are "perfect"; there will be things in them that might irritate you. Read them anyway, for the mental nourishment they provide.
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More broadly, if you're interested in psychology, primate behaviour, neuroscience, philosophy, game theory, and linguistics, here are a selection of books that I've found helpful:
• Descartes' Error by Antonio Damasio
• Neuroscience: Exploring the brain by Bear, Connors, and Paradiso (this is a fantastic illustrated text book with great explanations; fully worth the 72 euros I paid for it)
• Behave and Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers by Sapolsky (I wrote my "why" for Behave here[1])
• Moral Tribes by Joshua Greene
• The Evolution of Cooperation by Robert Axelrod
• Chimpanzee Politics by Frans de Waal
• Homo Ludens: A Study of the Play-Element in Culture by Johan Huizinga
• Metaphors We Live By, George Lakoff and Mark Johnson
• Becoming Human by Michael Tomasello
• For Stoicism, I wrote a detailed guide here[2] on good quality English translations by foremost scholars
• Not least of all, read some of Plato's dialogues—they're immensely fun, even if you don't agree with anything he says. Here's[3] a few recommended English translations.
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25559890 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25559890
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25559890 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25559890
[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27440236 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27440236
- quadrifoliate 5y agoThank you for your detailed answer with recommendations!
- kashyapc 5y agoOops, I repeated the first URL twice. I meant to link to the following one for the Stoicism guide/deep-dive: [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22990579 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22990579
- 1123581321 5y agoConsider that reading your post gives a similar rush as a popular book by Ryan Holliday. Most won't read old books just because they read your post. You're doing the same thing. It's fun to rant, but like most topical rants, the speaker is contributing to the problem in some way.
- kashyapc 5y ago? I took the time to write constructive recommendations of people who have spent decades thinking about the said topics. Most of these books have stood the test of time. Your comment and comparison doesn't make sense. If you do your research, you might grasp it better. But what I wrote is plain and clear as it is. (And judging by the off-thread responses I've gotten, many people appreciated it as I intended.)
- 1123581321 5y agoSure, that’s fine. It’s just the same thing Ryan Holliday et al are doing, in comment form. So the ranting is ironic. It makes sense you would receive a proportionate amount of appreciation as well relative to Holliday’s popularizations. Assuming someone who points this out hasn’t read the thread, done research or read many of the same books feels good, I’m sure.
- kashyapc 5y ago"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. [...] Please don't post shallow dismissals." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- 1123581321 5y agoI've read the guidelines before and would consider posting this link without comment to be the only shallow dismissal in this thread. I've been careful to stick to the matter. Again, I will clarify that there is merit to popularizing serious reading or classics. Just not in ranting against popularizing classics while doing so. I sincerely think you'll come around on this as you accumulate more reading and teaching.