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> This is completely consistent with the patient never telling the doctor that, to their surprise, after waiting months the SSRI side effects never go away. Th
by ivraatiems 5y ago
> This is completely consistent with the patient never telling the doctor that, to their surprise, after waiting months the SSRI side effects never go away.
That's true, that could certainly happen. I'm more skeptical about the rate at which it happens -- but also, if it is happening, presumably a patient will eventually go back to someone in the medical system and mention it. Whether they connect the dots is a question, but one which can be studied.
> I made a pretty small claim, that your psychiatrist may (not did have, may have) had patients with a condition they didn't discuss with her, that only became known to the patient after treatment had concluded. If you think a minor claim like that requires "surveys" or data, believe what you want, I don't know what to tell you.
The claim that my psychiatrist might have done something or not isn't the claim I want data for. The claim I want data for is "I'm also correct that many patients who have gone off the drug to see if the sexual dysfunction stops will probably no longer be making appointments with the psychiatrist. What would be the point? If they want to talk to someone that's what therapists are for."
That's not an anecdote, that's a pretty bold claim.
> The article this thread links to indicates there is no cure, so any patient who has done research would know discussing it with a psychiatrist would be useless.
I don't think people think about things that way necessarily. I wouldn't read an article and conclude I shouldn't talk to my doctor because the article suggests the doctor can't help, because I don't necessarily put that much faith in a single article. And doctors will frequently ask these sorts of questions, so even if I had read the article, I don't think I'd lie about it to them.
In general, I think you are making a number of assumptions about how people - doctors, insurers, pharma companies, and patients - behave that aren't necessarily borne out in reality. If your assumptions are all correct, your conclusions are reasonable, but I am not sure they're correct.
- staticman2 5y agoWell, you might look for data on how many patients discontinue any sort of treatment for starters. "Patient compliance" would be a starter for such a search. I get the impression that you have an "attachment" style relationship with your doctors, I don't mean that as an insult, I think that leads you to think that other people are interacting with them like you are, and would not possibly discontinue their long term interactions with the doctor even after deciding to go off drugs. Obviously not everyone is like you.
- ivraatiems 5y agoI'm not the one making the claim; it's not on me to provide evidence. Conceding your analysis of my particular situation, "not everyone is like me" is a far cry from "nobody is like me." If this condition has high incidence, and even a fraction of people were like me, it would be much more common knowledge than it seems to be given the quality and volume of evidence available.