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That's quite emotional response to something quite unrelated to your life. You don't like a company X, you don't use its products, that's it. Hate is destruct

That's quite emotional response to something quite unrelated to your life. You don't like a company X, you don't use its products, that's it. Hate is destructive.

cronix 5y ago
Hate might be strong, but this is kind of like naming your tech company "computer." "Meta" is used across so many industries in the tech sector, and outside. Now it's tied to the stink of "facebook."
kingkawn 5y ago
Pedantry ain’t gonna save anyone from anything Neither a prejudice against “emotions”
- asteroidbelt 5y ago
  I didn't see any pedantry, and nobody here needs saving (except from themselves).
  - AccountToUse 5y ago
    You are picking up extra shifts on the Facebook PR defense today. I like the aggressive attitude. See you back at the Meta offices tomorrow! Can't wait for the company Halloween party over VR.
tailspin2019 5y ago
Not the parent, but I hate Facebook because of the negative impact it had on my psychology, feeding my depression and anxiety for years before I broke free and stopped using it. That was about 10 years ago. They seem to have only gotten worse since then in many ways. And I was an adult when I started using it. I can’t imagine what some of these intrusive social media products are doing to kids. So I dislike and no longer use Facebook. And also, I do hate it. I’m usually a pretty positive person and would rarely use the word “hate” in respect of another person. I reserve that word for very few scenarios. But I have to say that in this case it’s perfectly fitting.
- asteroidbelt 5y ago
  This is an attitude of blaming everyone else but yourself. Obese? Hate Coca-Cola. Lung cancer? Hate Philip Morris. Broke a leg in car crash? Hate BMW. Depressed? Hate Facebook. Facebook is just a tool. How you use it, it is your responsibility.
  - OrderlyTiamat 5y ago
    and yours seems to be an attitude of blaming only the individual. Obese? just a lazy fatso. Lung cancer? just a nicotine junkie. etc. I think you are also being too simplistic and neglecting the complex interactions between personal responsibility and the dependency on the environment we as a culture inhabit and create. The impact of large corporations optimising consumer behavior is not zero, otherwise they wouldn't spend so much money on it. So those corporations also share partial accountability to the problems they helped create. The product "facebook" being a tool does not preclude the company "facebook" from accountability.
    - asteroidbelt 5y ago
      > and yours seems to be an attitude of blaming only the individual. Yes. Because I like to think I'm living among grown ups, not among children where nanny state is needed. > Obese? just a lazy fatso. Not everyone of course (sometimes it is disease), but most obese people are. It is not necessarily bad. Maybe someone decided they are happy being obese, lazy and enjoy sugar in food, that's their choice and their responsibility. > The impact of large corporations optimising consumer behavior is not zero, otherwise they wouldn't spend so much money on it. And grownup adults are responsible to recognize these tricks and don't use it when it harms them. Same as with Coca-cola, which also does millions of these tricks affecting consumer behavior. I drink Coke occasionally, and partly because of their ads everywhere, otherwise maybe I'd drink more water. But I know when to stop.
  - tailspin2019 5y ago
    Right. In my case I chose not to use it.
Abroszka 5y ago
It's not that simple. It's very hard to avoid Facebook. For example I literally can't delete it from my phone.
WalterSear 5y ago
Facebook radicalized my father and ruined our relationship.
- asteroidbelt 5y ago
  You are talking like your father is not a free thinking adult not capable of forming his own world view. I hate to say it, but if your relationship is ruined, it's not Facebook to blame.
  - dr_hooo 5y ago
    I think that most people here would agree that social media, and Facebook in particular feeds off people's tendency to get addicted to... it. Of course you can "get off" or use it thoughtfully. Many do, but many don't, not realizing how it changes your perception of reality and by extension your personality and relationships. Looking at the amount of plainly false information spreading in these networks, I wouldn't necessarily collectively characterize the userbase as a bunch of free thinkers. Sadly.
  - sbarre 5y ago
    Unsolicited advice: you need to learn empathy. It is a core life skill, and based (admittedly entirely) on your posting history here, you lack it completely.
    - asteroidbelt 5y ago
      Thank you making an assessment of my character knowing virtually nothing about me. This is not an emotional support forum. If you don’t want to have your relationship discussed, don’t bring it here, that’s it.
      - sbarre 5y ago
        > Thank you making an assessment of my character knowing virtually nothing about me. The pot calling the kettle black it would seem. > This is not an emotional support forum. We are all humans here, and humans have emotions. And we bring those emotions to everything we do. To deny this is extremely naive. There is nothing to be gained from being disrespectful or cruel to each other. Quite the opposite in fact.
coik 5y ago
idk i'd destroy facebook and tbh i'd view it as a neet +ve for society, hate seems like the appropriate word (at least for me)
- asteroidbelt 5y ago
  > idk i'd destroy facebook Sorry to hear that. I'd prefer to live in society where there's rule of law and basic freedoms, including freedom to conduct business even if I or someone else disagrees with how that business operates. I wouldn't want to destroy any legal business.
  - MandieD 5y ago
    And some of us think that the category of “legal business” should be restricted a bit more, just as we don’t allow alcohol and marijuana producers to sell to minors, or financial institutions to loan money at high interest rates with self-enforced, obliquely-hinted-at physical penalties.
    - asteroidbelt 5y ago
      Maybe it should be restricted. I personally think the ability to censor free speech and free expression for such companies should be restricted. But destroy it? That'd be too much.
browningstreet 5y ago
Facebook has literally shaped our world, and often.. the people we encounter in it. Meta could do a bit of that, too.
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aidaman 5y ago
He hates the name. Take a chill pill.
sbarre 5y ago
My response was an intentionally flippant statement, and very self-aware as a "first impression" type thing. I don't actually hate Facebook, or their new name (but I don't think it's very good). Sorry that went over your head, I didn't mean to trigger a lecture.

That's quite emotional response to something quite unrelated to your life. You don't like a company X, you don't use its products, that's it. Hate is destructive.

cronix 5y ago

Hate might be strong, but this is kind of like naming your tech company "computer." "Meta" is used across so many industries in the tech sector, and outside. Now it's tied to the stink of "facebook."

kingkawn 5y ago

Pedantry ain’t gonna save anyone from anything Neither a prejudice against “emotions”

asteroidbelt 5y ago
I didn't see any pedantry, and nobody here needs saving (except from themselves).
- AccountToUse 5y ago
  You are picking up extra shifts on the Facebook PR defense today. I like the aggressive attitude. See you back at the Meta offices tomorrow! Can't wait for the company Halloween party over VR.

tailspin2019 5y ago

Not the parent, but I hate Facebook because of the negative impact it had on my psychology, feeding my depression and anxiety for years before I broke free and stopped using it. That was about 10 years ago. They seem to have only gotten worse since then in many ways. And I was an adult when I started using it. I can’t imagine what some of these intrusive social media products are doing to kids. So I dislike and no longer use Facebook. And also, I do hate it. I’m usually a pretty positive person and would rarely use the word “hate” in respect of another person. I reserve that word for very few scenarios. But I have to say that in this case it’s perfectly fitting.

asteroidbelt 5y ago
This is an attitude of blaming everyone else but yourself. Obese? Hate Coca-Cola. Lung cancer? Hate Philip Morris. Broke a leg in car crash? Hate BMW. Depressed? Hate Facebook. Facebook is just a tool. How you use it, it is your responsibility.
- OrderlyTiamat 5y ago
  and yours seems to be an attitude of blaming only the individual. Obese? just a lazy fatso. Lung cancer? just a nicotine junkie. etc. I think you are also being too simplistic and neglecting the complex interactions between personal responsibility and the dependency on the environment we as a culture inhabit and create. The impact of large corporations optimising consumer behavior is not zero, otherwise they wouldn't spend so much money on it. So those corporations also share partial accountability to the problems they helped create. The product "facebook" being a tool does not preclude the company "facebook" from accountability.
  - asteroidbelt 5y ago
    > and yours seems to be an attitude of blaming only the individual. Yes. Because I like to think I'm living among grown ups, not among children where nanny state is needed. > Obese? just a lazy fatso. Not everyone of course (sometimes it is disease), but most obese people are. It is not necessarily bad. Maybe someone decided they are happy being obese, lazy and enjoy sugar in food, that's their choice and their responsibility. > The impact of large corporations optimising consumer behavior is not zero, otherwise they wouldn't spend so much money on it. And grownup adults are responsible to recognize these tricks and don't use it when it harms them. Same as with Coca-cola, which also does millions of these tricks affecting consumer behavior. I drink Coke occasionally, and partly because of their ads everywhere, otherwise maybe I'd drink more water. But I know when to stop.
- tailspin2019 5y ago
  Right. In my case I chose not to use it.

Abroszka 5y ago

It's not that simple. It's very hard to avoid Facebook. For example I literally can't delete it from my phone.

WalterSear 5y ago

Facebook radicalized my father and ruined our relationship.

asteroidbelt 5y ago
You are talking like your father is not a free thinking adult not capable of forming his own world view. I hate to say it, but if your relationship is ruined, it's not Facebook to blame.
- dr_hooo 5y ago
  I think that most people here would agree that social media, and Facebook in particular feeds off people's tendency to get addicted to... it. Of course you can "get off" or use it thoughtfully. Many do, but many don't, not realizing how it changes your perception of reality and by extension your personality and relationships. Looking at the amount of plainly false information spreading in these networks, I wouldn't necessarily collectively characterize the userbase as a bunch of free thinkers. Sadly.
- sbarre 5y ago
  Unsolicited advice: you need to learn empathy. It is a core life skill, and based (admittedly entirely) on your posting history here, you lack it completely.
  - asteroidbelt 5y ago
    Thank you making an assessment of my character knowing virtually nothing about me. This is not an emotional support forum. If you don’t want to have your relationship discussed, don’t bring it here, that’s it.
    - sbarre 5y ago
      > Thank you making an assessment of my character knowing virtually nothing about me. The pot calling the kettle black it would seem. > This is not an emotional support forum. We are all humans here, and humans have emotions. And we bring those emotions to everything we do. To deny this is extremely naive. There is nothing to be gained from being disrespectful or cruel to each other. Quite the opposite in fact.

coik 5y ago

idk i'd destroy facebook and tbh i'd view it as a neet +ve for society, hate seems like the appropriate word (at least for me)

asteroidbelt 5y ago
> idk i'd destroy facebook Sorry to hear that. I'd prefer to live in society where there's rule of law and basic freedoms, including freedom to conduct business even if I or someone else disagrees with how that business operates. I wouldn't want to destroy any legal business.
- MandieD 5y ago
  And some of us think that the category of “legal business” should be restricted a bit more, just as we don’t allow alcohol and marijuana producers to sell to minors, or financial institutions to loan money at high interest rates with self-enforced, obliquely-hinted-at physical penalties.
  - asteroidbelt 5y ago
    Maybe it should be restricted. I personally think the ability to censor free speech and free expression for such companies should be restricted. But destroy it? That'd be too much.

browningstreet 5y ago

Facebook has literally shaped our world, and often.. the people we encounter in it. Meta could do a bit of that, too.

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aidaman 5y ago

He hates the name. Take a chill pill.

sbarre 5y ago

My response was an intentionally flippant statement, and very self-aware as a "first impression" type thing. I don't actually hate Facebook, or their new name (but I don't think it's very good). Sorry that went over your head, I didn't mean to trigger a lecture.