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This Zappos article is like the whole catalog of rich people problems in a nutshell: drugs, parasitic relationships, arrests, and dumb accidents. I know some p
by narrator 5y ago
This Zappos article is like the whole catalog of rich people problems in a nutshell: drugs, parasitic relationships, arrests, and dumb accidents.
I know some people who know people who made a lot of money in the 2000s dot com boom. One of them got a "guru" who he paid several thousands of dollars a day to. The "guru" fed him Ayahuasca and people who visited the rich guy at his house said he had removed all furniture from his house, was wearing robes and said he could control the winds with his thoughts.
They often say that there's no one more hopeless than a rich junky. If they have a very large amount of money, they never hit rock bottom until they're dead.
- lapetitejort 5y agoBill Murray said try being rich before being rich and famous. I'm rethinking the rich part.
- nostrademons 5y agoRich is better than famous. Plenty of people are quietly rich and basically just go about their business and live their lives, secure in the knowledge that there's money in the bank if they need it. There's no such thing as quietly famous. Many of pitfalls of being rich & famous, like greedy enablers and a larger-than-life lifestyle, stem from the "famous" part.
- lapetitejort 5y agoThe key is to slowly become rich. Tony Hsieh died at 46, around the time most pre-rich people haven't even made it out of upper middle class. Amass wealth slowly and your poor grifting friends will slowly be replaced with rich friends whose grifts will at least have a chance of return.
- black_13 5y agoYes thats it.
- ipaddr 5y agoYou see many examples of quiet famous people from Letterman, Carson, Conan or most politicians or most actors like Nicole Kidman. The ones making the headlines are a small percentage.
- teakettle42 5y ago> They often say that there's no one more hopeless than a rich junky. If they have a very large amount of money, they never hit rock bottom until they're dead. She’s fortunately still alive, but when I divorced my ex-wife over her substance abuse, she walked away with ~$1M in cash. It took three years of partying, but she finally ran out of money, hit rock bottom, went to AA, and is actually looking for a job. It was sad to watch, and infuriating to be forced to be her enabler by the state after she’d already cost me so much. No-fault divorce is a broken system.
- jjtheblunt 5y ago> No-fault means what?
- twiddling 5y ago"No-fault divorce is a broken system." Or was it a community property state?
- teakettle42 5y agoIt’s an “equitable distribution” state; property is divided without regard to marital misconduct or fault.
- robbedpeter 5y ago
- LurkingPenguin 5y ago> This Zappos article is like the whole catalog of rich people problems in a nutshell: drugs, parasitic relationships, arrests, and dumb accidents. Not all "rich people" have these problems. You just don't tend to hear about the ones who live normal lives.
- Scoundreller 5y agoThe point being made is that it’s hard to get by and be deep in more one of those situations if you’re poor.
- Kranar 5y agoPoor people don't get deep into drugs, aren't involved in numerous parasitic relationships, don't get arrested or do dumb things? That's only something rich people get deeply involved in? Of course not, it's just no one cares when a poor person does it. The reason we care about when rich people do it is precisely because we don't expect someone who is rich and seems to have it all to get into these situations, and the reality is that for the most part, they don't.
- Scoundreller 5y agoIt can get a lot worse when you have the money to enable drug use, have money to be parasitized, have lawyers for any arrest to pay a meaningless fine, or house-arrest on your compound(s) instead of jail time, pay for any accidents and pay to do dumb(er) things. So yeah, rich people can get wayyyyy deeper in any and all of those than poor people. A rich person is just a better resourced poor person. I’d argue their quality of life isn’t much different except one can buy their way out of any problem while the other has to suffer it directly.
- 1cvmask 5y agoI don't think he was referring to rich "normal" people. The types of problems you can only have if you have a lot of money. Most people can't afford to be on 2 week drug binges. And you probably need a job to pay for your drug habit and most of those jobs like being a forklift operator come with mandatory drug testing. But if you have 200 million to play with then that is a whole nother ball game.
- akudha 5y agoI have never tried any drugs/alcohol, but I'm curious about Ayahuasca. Don't know anyone personally who has been through the ceremony, but I've listened to a bunch of interviews, read a bunch of articles about it. It mostly seems legit, but I have no clue. Anyone here tried it? What was the experience like?
- potatoman22 5y agoTry shrooms or acid before Ayahuasca. DMT is something not to be taken lightly
- gojomo 5y agoGoogling [ayahuasca experience reports] should provide a better mix of writeups (including both rigorously-reported mainstream articles & deep-forum anecdotes) than any number of responses inline here could.
- vincentmarle 5y agoIf you’ve never tried any drugs/alcohol then I would strongly recommend not do it. I’ve tried plenty of drugs but ayahuesca is still something that I would have to think about before trying it.
- katzgrau 5y agoSeconded. It's a door that's better off not opened. Of course, it's hard to know really good advice until you're well beyond not having taken it.
- tudorw 5y agoAyahuasca, hmm, a drug you might choose to use for health reasons in the same way a car accident might re-align your back, it's extremely dangerous to use and anyone who tells you different is probably trying to sell something that cannot be bought.
- jacquesm 5y agoI've seen enough intelligent and otherwise reasonable people go down that road and not come back that I would caution you to be very, very wary and to suspect that anybody that invites you to join them in their trips is a lobster looking to pull you down into the pot, not to lift you out of it.
- GDC7 5y ago> They often say that there's no one more hopeless than a rich junky. If they have a very large amount of money, they never hit rock bottom until they're dead. Why doesn't anyone make the argument of quality vs. quantity when discussing such examplers 5 years spent as a rich junkie must be worth a lifetime as a 9-5 cubicle worker
- Waterluvian 5y ago"5 years spent as a rich junkie must be worth a lifetime as a 9-5 cubicle worker." This claim demands great evidence.
- GDC7 5y agoI don't think there is a measurement who'd satisfy the requirement of statistical evidence. Empirically it seems to me that people nowadays are more scared of death than they are euphoric about life. All sorts of problems happen when this condition presents itself in vast pockets of the population. The fact that nobody makes a quality vs. quantity analysis is further proof of this
- sangnoir 5y ago> Empirically it seems to me that people nowadays are more scared of death than they are euphoric about life. Have you not talked to a teenager lately?
- rrrrrrrrrrrryan 5y agoTeenagers today are definitely less rebellious and less hedonistic: they have less sex and take much less intoxicants than previous generations. I don't agree that it's because they're "scared of death," but they do seem to be less euphoric about life, for whatever reason.
- manquer 5y agoIn theory if you value variety of experiences than 5 years as junkie may be better outcome than the a desk job. Most people don't value variety all that much which is why 9-5 workers are lot more common than perpetual travellers etc.
- jacquesm 5y ago> One of them got a "guru" who he paid several thousands of dollars a day to. The "guru" fed him Ayahuasca and people who visited the rich guy at his house said he had removed all furniture from his house, was wearing robes and said he could control the winds with his thoughts. I think we have this acquaintance in common.
- weq 5y agolol at the money junkies trying to justify there high over the people who use substances to give them delusions of grandeur.