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> In the US, we're increasingly normalizing the culture of "well, it's legal" Yes, this makes me sick. I know a disturbing number of people who, to varying deg

by _jal 5y ago

> In the US, we're increasingly normalizing the culture of "well, it's legal" Yes, this makes me sick. I know a disturbing number of people who, to varying degrees, seem to think gaming things without regard to positive-sum outcomes is just... right and normal. People want to talk about a morality crisis, there's your crisis. Way too many people seem to want to live in Soviet-class corruption.

vkou 5y ago
> Yes, this makes me sick. I know a disturbing number of people who, to varying degrees, seem to think gaming things without regard to positive-sum outcomes is just... right and normal. It's right and normal because the US[1] has a very rule-based social system. Break the rules with the best of intentions, and you're not going to have a good time. Follow the rules with the worst of intentions, and you are. [1] And it is by no means alone in this.
beepbooptheory 5y ago
Indeed, reasserting true American values and ideals over the corrupt Soviet ones would help ease some of this moral failing. One thing that a society under communism has to deal with is reckoning with the fact that, actually, its all a game and there is little difference between what you can get away with, and what is right. In fact the Soviets celebrated and rewarded those people who, as individuals, could play the game best. while in America we have always valued human enterprise in itself. It's not about the money, it's about collectively coming together to maximize prosperity and well being. People know whats right and good because, as a nation, its manifest that greedy individuals should not be celebrated; goes against the whole idea of the United States that's been there from the start. It's really sad, I feel like I'm living in the USSR more and more everyday
- codeproject 5y ago
  have you ever lived in the soviet union before? or You just read about it from the media? Not to defend the system here. Just a gentle reminder of a bit critical thinking. >its all a game and there is little difference between what you can get away with, and what is right<...Here what about the Jeffery Epstein?
  - a1369209993 5y ago
    What about Epstein? His misdeeds were only acknowledged when he could no longer get away with them. Edit: to be clear, I'm pretty sure they intended "right" to be sarcastic in that statement, not that they're actually endorsing something as depraved as cultural relativism.

by _jal 5y ago

vkou 5y ago

> Yes, this makes me sick. I know a disturbing number of people who, to varying degrees, seem to think gaming things without regard to positive-sum outcomes is just... right and normal. It's right and normal because the US[1] has a very rule-based social system. Break the rules with the best of intentions, and you're not going to have a good time. Follow the rules with the worst of intentions, and you are. [1] And it is by no means alone in this.

beepbooptheory 5y ago

Indeed, reasserting true American values and ideals over the corrupt Soviet ones would help ease some of this moral failing. One thing that a society under communism has to deal with is reckoning with the fact that, actually, its all a game and there is little difference between what you can get away with, and what is right. In fact the Soviets celebrated and rewarded those people who, as individuals, could play the game best. while in America we have always valued human enterprise in itself. It's not about the money, it's about collectively coming together to maximize prosperity and well being. People know whats right and good because, as a nation, its manifest that greedy individuals should not be celebrated; goes against the whole idea of the United States that's been there from the start. It's really sad, I feel like I'm living in the USSR more and more everyday

codeproject 5y ago
have you ever lived in the soviet union before? or You just read about it from the media? Not to defend the system here. Just a gentle reminder of a bit critical thinking. >its all a game and there is little difference between what you can get away with, and what is right<...Here what about the Jeffery Epstein?
- a1369209993 5y ago
  What about Epstein? His misdeeds were only acknowledged when he could no longer get away with them. Edit: to be clear, I'm pretty sure they intended "right" to be sarcastic in that statement, not that they're actually endorsing something as depraved as cultural relativism.