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America Cannot Take on China and Russia Simultaneously
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- trollski 5y agoamerica cannot take on china period. why chineese are hard at work we are mostly debating what pronouns we should be using. that is not a winning strategy:
- edgyquant 5y agoDoes it need to? The early Cold War also saw America having to take on the two and it succeeded by playing them against each other.
- chillacy 5y agoI think refers to Nixon/Kissinger's move in befriending China after the Sino-Soviet split. The author says: > Instead, rather than attempting to challenge and contain Russia and China along their borders and coastal seas, the United States should pursue some limited accommodations of their vital interests either by diplomacy or unilateral actions. In my next article, I will discuss a new, forward-thinking proposed U.S. national security strategy that has the potential to divide and disrupt the Sino-Russian military alliance and ensure our national survival.
- iab 5y agoReading this is so bizarre - take on China? The US is so fractured we couldn’t take on Zimbabwe right now. Remember “rather be a Russian than a democrat”? The post- cold-war era of dominance is way in the rear view mirror.
- exclusiv 5y ago> The US is so fractured we couldn’t take on Zimbabwe right now. No need to be so dramatic.
- SturgeonsLaw 5y agoIt's not far off See: Afghanistan
- footlose_3815 5y agoeveryone loses there though
- LurkingPenguin 5y agoI'm an American living in Taiwan and I am concerned about the risk of China's aggression in the region, even if it stops short of a full invasion of Taiwan. I do happen to think that an attack or invasion is more likely than many "experts" suggest publicly, and could come sooner than they expect. This said, I found the author's language curious: > ...and what appears to be an increasingly imminent Chinese invasion of Taiwan. Does he even know what "imminent" means? Some of his other arguments are incredibly hyperbolic: > If the United States continues its high-risk policy of military brinkmanship with Russia and China, the outcome, however unthinkable, might be an Armageddon that results in the end of our nation. The end of our nation? Are China and Russia going to invade the US? Are they going to annihilate the US? This author believes that the threat of an EMP attack against the US is "very real" and that the US is losing "the nuclear arms race"[2]. While I certainly don't think it's unreasonable to consider dire scenarios, I'd also suggest that the author might be making a huge mistake in assuming that China and Russia are dangerous because they're stronger than the US when it's quite possible that they're dangerous for exactly the opposite reason[3][4]. [1] https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/threat-emp-attack-very-real-105112 https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/threat-emp-attack-ver... [2] https://nationalinterest.org/feature/russia-and-china-are-already-winning-nuclear-arms-race-194527 https://nationalinterest.org/feature/russia-and-china-are-al... [3] https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/24/china-great-power-united-states/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/09/24/china-great-power-unite... [4] https://www.rferl.org/a/us-intel-russia-declining-disruptive-power-/31194504.html https://www.rferl.org/a/us-intel-russia-declining-disruptive...
- tuatoru 5y ago> > ...and what appears to be an increasingly imminent Chinese invasion of Taiwan. > Does he even know what "imminent" means? That's a perfectly valid use of the word, especially in the context of increasing Chinese naval and aerial activity and increasing Chinese rhetoric about Taiwan, and China's orbital hypersonic missile test(s).[1] Perhaps you are confusing it with "immanent"? 1. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/27/us/politics/china-hypersonic-missile.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/27/us/politics/china-hyperso...
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- mensetmanusman 5y agoPretty sure there are enough nukes to destroy the world a million times over, why would Russia and China attack American soil?
- smt88 5y agoRussia and China are attacking American "soil" every minute of every day. They're just doing it through clandestine hacking campaigns, sometimes through groups like Fancy Bear. Here is one example of thousands: https://apnews.com/article/technology-business-europe-russia-1e65777560b39e35209e11dbccfcab1f https://apnews.com/article/technology-business-europe-russia...
- FjolsvithAase 5y agoClif High discusses why China went to war with America: https://www.bitchute.com/video/6UoprWnLdauS/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/6UoprWnLdauS/
- tchalla 5y agoUS has and continues to do the same.
- smt88 5y agoSo what? That has nothing to do with the comment I was replying to.
- tomdell 5y agoConsider the source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_Interest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_National_Interest
- MrWiffles 5y agoFor anyone looking for a quick summary of "the source", TNI was described by a journalist as very "Kremlin-friendly". From the wikipedia article: > Writing in Politico, journalist James Kirchick argued in 2016 while commenting on Donald Trump's Russian relationships that The National Interest and its parent company "are two of the most Kremlin-sympathetic institutions in the nation’s capital, even more so than the Carnegie Moscow Center." This is, of course, only an opinion. I'm just putting this here so anyone quickly browsing/glancing doesn't have to weed through several links to understand what tomdell means above.
- footlose_3815 5y agoit’s almost as if the cybercafe trolls are here too
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- gregjor 5y agoWe can't even take on Afghanistan and Baltimore simultaneously.
- beezischillin 5y agoI genuinely struggle to imagine what taking on China would be like with so much economic dependance on their exports and manufacturing. Can anyone please explain? Especially in the with the current economic outlook in mind.
- FjolsvithAase 5y agoRight now, there is not much in the way of Chinese exports coming into America. What would be different? And Chinese manufacturing is practically at a standstill with their electric grid paralyzation.
- rsj_hn 5y agoLet's hope for no wars between nuclear powers, rather than having the US take on two of them at the same time.
- Maraguy 5y agoThis is why Taiwan is still at great risk of being invaded by the cpp. Even when the US says it will offer "protection".
- dsq 5y agoWhich is why the current US-Russia antagonism is an anachronism, facilitated by anachronistic leadership, especially, but not only, in Russia. The fall of Communism/Warsaw Pact should have led to a great rapprochement between the two northern hemisphere powers.
- seanw444 5y agoPutin has few agreeable policies, but it's a real shame the U.S. didn't get very close with Russia during the Yeltsin era. They could have been a massive ally to us.