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This is the kind of thing I would need to see in real time, because I simply can't believe that it does any of these things in a way that is reliable and doesn'

• gfosco 5y ago
  Likewise skeptical, but I have been super impressed with it. I just got in to the technical preview, and worked through a specific task I needed to do (involving mongoose, a mongo aggregate query, a few loops, some date functions) and started by adding a comment above each line. It helped a lot actually, felt like a collab. I'll reproduce a generic example I sent a friend. Prompt: const redis = require('redis'); // Create a redis client Copilot suggested: const client = redis.createClient(); I accepted it and moved 2 lines down, prompt: // Get the current count from redis Copilot suggested a start to the operation: client.get('count', (err, count) => { I accepted it, and Copilot continued: if (err) { console.log(err); return; } // If there is no count, set it to 0 if (!count) { count = 0; } // Increment the count count++; // Set the new count in redis client.set('count', count); // Log the new count console.log(count); }
  • aaaaaaaaaaab 5y ago
    Why does it increment the count?
    • gfosco 5y ago
      I assume that in its training, incrementing a counter in redis is common.
  • foepys 5y ago
    Redis has the INCR command that does this in redis without the additional round-trips (and race conditions). It also sets the value to 0 if the key doesn't exist. So, I actually consider this to be exactly the bad behavior that people accuse Copilot of.
    • gfosco 5y ago
      This was just one of its suggestions, but you're right of course.. it's all based on the training data and idioms used there. If it doesn't weight more modern code higher, if it's not aware of new versions and methods, it isn't going to be super intelligent.. but it can still give you some ideas.
    • speedgoose 5y ago
      Yes it's not very shinning there. I would also throw the error instead of printing the error to the console and returning undefined.
      • ponyous 5y ago
        You are in a callback there. Goodbye your error!
        • speedgoose 5y ago
          Oh right. I once made a layer on top of the redis client to use promises because callbacks are a pain to deal with.
  • matsemann 5y ago
    // Create a redis client Writing that probably takes a longer time than just doing it with the IDE help in jetbrains, though? Press "r", press "." to autocomplete so it now says "redis.", then write "cC" and it suggests createClient (or write "create" or "client" if you're not sure what you're looking for). Now it says "redis.createClient()". Press ctrl+alt+v to extract a variable or write ".const" and press tab to apply the const live template. Ending up with your result in two seconds.
    • anigbrowl 5y ago
      The power of something like Copilot is in building out stuff you're not familiar with or don't have templates set up. It's probably not as helpful when you already have a clear idea of what you want to do and just need it rather than think about it. +1 for the variable extraction thing, I've been using their IDE for ages and it never occurred to me to look for such a thing.
      • matsemann 5y ago
        I use it especially much when writing old school java. Instead of writing "MyClass myclass = new MyClass()", I just write "new MyClass()" and get the typing for free. Even better when you do longer expressions and don't want to think about the type up front. Like working with streams or so.
        • anigbrowl 5y ago
          Yeah this would be quite helpful for me as I tend to just experiment with things in the console (cleaning up messy datasets and the like) and then copy or rewrite into something more structured later. I feel like I'm only using about 20% of what Pycharm can do.
• Polycryptus 5y ago
  It's _very_ good at "learn by example" with some twists. It _does_ make mistakes, and I do double check it, but it still definitely saves time. I used it to write the bulk of a new implementation of a new audio backend for a game engine yesterday - it filled out a lot of the "boilerplate" integration work (e.g. generating all the functions like "set volume/pan/3D audio position" that map over 1:1 to functions in the other library). I will say, though, that it's also good at making up code that looks very believably real but doesn't actually work. The ethics involved in Copilot are a bit strange, and I'm not sure I'll keep using it for those reasons, but it does a good job.
• baby 5y ago
  I was really skeptical at first, but after using it for a while omg it is just insane.