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https://g.nh.ee/images/pix/1200x0/lYFSVUXJ5XY/1d2e261794d4d304e0-94980189.jpg?up=1 https://g.nh.ee/images/pix/1200x0/lYFSVUXJ5XY/1d2e261794d4d3... This QR code

by clon 5y ago

https://g.nh.ee/images/pix/1200x0/lYFSVUXJ5XY/1d2e261794d4d304e0-94980189.jpg?up=1 https://g.nh.ee/images/pix/1200x0/lYFSVUXJ5XY/1d2e261794d4d3... This QR code proves Adolf Hitler has received 2 doses of Pfizer vaccine. At the moment you can still use the Estonian app to verify this (https://kontroll.digilugu.ee https://kontroll.digilugu.ee). Probably this specific cert will be revoked soon in all the apps. But the cat is out of the bag. Everyone's grandparents will need to do the certificate retrieval dance again, which is another confusion that we did not need at this critical junction. Someone out there has a serious problem with ethics. Or someone really screwed up to the point where it was obvious that a responsible disclosure was already a moot point. In my experience, CERT-EU is normally very competent and would have handled it professionally.

piaste 5y ago
It (already?) records as invalid in the Italian app.
- jerheinze 5y ago
  I think they might be checking against the online database, can you try to see if you replicate it offline? (if that's even possible)
- ProZsolt 5y ago
  It works with the latest VerificaC19(Android)
rmetzler 5y ago
It's also shown as valid by the German CovPassCheck app.
- soco 5y ago
  Maybe there's a real person named Adolf Hitler? Not from Germany for sure.
  - ARandomerDude 5y ago
    > Not from Germany for sure. Is it illegal to name a child Adolf Hitler in Germany? Serious question, not sarcasm.
    - azzzy 5y ago
      it is illegal
      - clon 5y ago
        It strikes me as one of those things that society is perfectly happy self-regulating
        ygjb 5y ago
        One would assume, but unfortunately as another comment in this thread illustrated, there is no bottom when probing the depth of the depravity inspired by ignorant hatred.
        Hamuko 5y ago
        Sometimes it doesn't really feel like parents think too hard about their child's well-being when naming them. They actually publish the list of names that were rejected because of Finnish naming laws and while the list doesn't say if it was a parent seeking a name for a child, or an adult for themselves, I imagine there are many that are seeking them for a child. For example, "Decepticon", "Marihuana", "Sukka" (literally means "sock"). And as a famous example from across the pond, Elon Musk comes to mind.
    - pfg 5y ago
      There's no actual written law on this, but the relevant authority (Standesamt) has to take the child's welfare into account when accepting names, and may reject them as a matter of common law. (I suppose it's possible this would be under the purview of the Verbotsgesetz as well, but it wouldn't get that far due to the name being rejected.)
    - 5y ago
tomp 5y ago
Personally I think it is unethical not to leak it. Technology is the best way to fight surveillance-oppression.
- phantomathkg 5y ago
  So you are saying we shouldn’t trust whether others have been vaccinated or not? Or should we fallback to paper cert?
  - native_samples 5y ago
    It's irrelevant whether other people have been vaccinated or not, for a vaccine that works. The claims to the contrary are all extremely weak that look strongly like working backwards from the desired conclusion (collective action) to something that sounds vaguely scientific (the passes). The system therefore has no legitimacy and opposing it is ethically correct.
  - dham 5y ago
    Just get the vaccine and go about life. If you're still worried, you're welcome to stay at home and play video games.
  - havkd 5y ago
    We shouldn’t ask others about their private medical information.
    - takeda 5y ago
      That's not how it works. Your medical record is private, but if a job has a requirement they can ask for proof of vaccine. It is up to you to provide it, and it is up to them to how to interpret it if you don't provide and how to handle it. For example even before the pandemic it was a job requirement of you were in a medical field.
      - dham 5y ago
        That's fine but I didn't have to show my vaccination record to my current employer. I literally sit at home and stare at a computer screen all day. That's different than a nurse at a hospital. My sister works at Pfizer in clinical trials, her last day is next week. She literally had to submit negative test results every week since around May. She works remotely, doesn't live in the same state as Pfizer headquarters and sits in front of a computer all day. Tell me how that makes sense?
untitaker_ 5y ago
>Everyone's grandparents will need to do the certificate retrieval dance again it's very questionable whether this is true. revocation can be done many different ways, reissuing can be made more convenient too
mfru 5y ago
The Austrian app is verifying it as well still: https://greencheck.gv.at/ https://greencheck.gv.at/

by clon 5y ago

piaste 5y ago

It (already?) records as invalid in the Italian app.

jerheinze 5y ago
I think they might be checking against the online database, can you try to see if you replicate it offline? (if that's even possible)
ProZsolt 5y ago
It works with the latest VerificaC19(Android)

rmetzler 5y ago

It's also shown as valid by the German CovPassCheck app.

soco 5y ago
Maybe there's a real person named Adolf Hitler? Not from Germany for sure.
- ARandomerDude 5y ago
  > Not from Germany for sure. Is it illegal to name a child Adolf Hitler in Germany? Serious question, not sarcasm.
  - azzzy 5y ago
    it is illegal
    - clon 5y ago
      It strikes me as one of those things that society is perfectly happy self-regulating
      - ygjb 5y ago
        One would assume, but unfortunately as another comment in this thread illustrated, there is no bottom when probing the depth of the depravity inspired by ignorant hatred.
      - Hamuko 5y ago
        Sometimes it doesn't really feel like parents think too hard about their child's well-being when naming them. They actually publish the list of names that were rejected because of Finnish naming laws and while the list doesn't say if it was a parent seeking a name for a child, or an adult for themselves, I imagine there are many that are seeking them for a child. For example, "Decepticon", "Marihuana", "Sukka" (literally means "sock"). And as a famous example from across the pond, Elon Musk comes to mind.
  - pfg 5y ago
    There's no actual written law on this, but the relevant authority (Standesamt) has to take the child's welfare into account when accepting names, and may reject them as a matter of common law. (I suppose it's possible this would be under the purview of the Verbotsgesetz as well, but it wouldn't get that far due to the name being rejected.)
  - 5y ago

tomp 5y ago

Personally I think it is unethical not to leak it. Technology is the best way to fight surveillance-oppression.

phantomathkg 5y ago
So you are saying we shouldn’t trust whether others have been vaccinated or not? Or should we fallback to paper cert?
- native_samples 5y ago
  It's irrelevant whether other people have been vaccinated or not, for a vaccine that works. The claims to the contrary are all extremely weak that look strongly like working backwards from the desired conclusion (collective action) to something that sounds vaguely scientific (the passes). The system therefore has no legitimacy and opposing it is ethically correct.
- dham 5y ago
  Just get the vaccine and go about life. If you're still worried, you're welcome to stay at home and play video games.
- havkd 5y ago
  We shouldn’t ask others about their private medical information.
  - takeda 5y ago
    That's not how it works. Your medical record is private, but if a job has a requirement they can ask for proof of vaccine. It is up to you to provide it, and it is up to them to how to interpret it if you don't provide and how to handle it. For example even before the pandemic it was a job requirement of you were in a medical field.
    - dham 5y ago
      That's fine but I didn't have to show my vaccination record to my current employer. I literally sit at home and stare at a computer screen all day. That's different than a nurse at a hospital. My sister works at Pfizer in clinical trials, her last day is next week. She literally had to submit negative test results every week since around May. She works remotely, doesn't live in the same state as Pfizer headquarters and sits in front of a computer all day. Tell me how that makes sense?

untitaker_ 5y ago

>Everyone's grandparents will need to do the certificate retrieval dance again it's very questionable whether this is true. revocation can be done many different ways, reissuing can be made more convenient too

mfru 5y ago

The Austrian app is verifying it as well still: https://greencheck.gv.at/ https://greencheck.gv.at/