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The digitization of text from photos happens on device and not sent to any remote server afaik. However the article dismisses it and equates it to surveillance

The digitization of text from photos happens on device and not sent to any remote server afaik. However the article dismisses it and equates it to surveillance because > All of these features increase the amount of data collected. This looks like a cheap attempt to FUD, I don’t see how this feature has anything to do with surveillance.

m4rtink 5y ago
All the locally running software doing this is proprietary, how do we can be so sure what it really does withou inspecting its source code (and making sure it corresponds to the on device binaries) ?
- drexlspivey 5y ago
  This can be said for all software, even open source. Nothing about that is specific to Apple.
- quenix 5y ago
  You own the network your device is on and you can see what it sends over the wire. Inspect network traffic if you wish. With the billions of iOS devices running around the planet and with the fact that it just takes one person to blow the whistle on this sort of data collection, I just don't buy the argument that it might have been happening this whole time... purely on the basis that things happen sometimes.
  - krageon 5y ago
    You cannot practically do this in the age of certificate pinning. All you can say is that a smartphone communicates, which should be obvious. What it is communicating is frequently unknown.
- masswerk 5y ago
  You can just disable any network connections and see, if the service still works. Text recognition in images (Live text/Vision framework) does. Now you could obviously say, "Who knows about any logs, and whether they are secretly transferring them as soon as there is any network connection or not?" Well, this is another topic, namely this of basic trust, and applies to any application and any vendor. (And, if your business is operating systems, living up to this trust may be a vital business decision. In contrast to some vendor of a random app, there's a strong incentive to do so.)

m4rtink 5y ago

All the locally running software doing this is proprietary, how do we can be so sure what it really does withou inspecting its source code (and making sure it corresponds to the on device binaries) ?

drexlspivey 5y ago
This can be said for all software, even open source. Nothing about that is specific to Apple.
quenix 5y ago
You own the network your device is on and you can see what it sends over the wire. Inspect network traffic if you wish. With the billions of iOS devices running around the planet and with the fact that it just takes one person to blow the whistle on this sort of data collection, I just don't buy the argument that it might have been happening this whole time... purely on the basis that things happen sometimes.
- krageon 5y ago
  You cannot practically do this in the age of certificate pinning. All you can say is that a smartphone communicates, which should be obvious. What it is communicating is frequently unknown.
masswerk 5y ago
You can just disable any network connections and see, if the service still works. Text recognition in images (Live text/Vision framework) does. Now you could obviously say, "Who knows about any logs, and whether they are secretly transferring them as soon as there is any network connection or not?" Well, this is another topic, namely this of basic trust, and applies to any application and any vendor. (And, if your business is operating systems, living up to this trust may be a vital business decision. In contrast to some vendor of a random app, there's a strong incentive to do so.)