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How stable is Monterey for those that have been using it? Ironically I just upgraded to Big Sur yesterday from Catalina. I think I'll probably wait again to le

How stable is Monterey for those that have been using it? Ironically I just upgraded to Big Sur yesterday from Catalina. I think I'll probably wait again to let 3rd-party apps catch up.

henvic 5y ago
I've kind of indirect experience: my girlfriend is an iOS developer, and has been using it on her only Mac for a while. In the beginning it was awful for her. A lot of failures. However, after a couple of months it became quite stable, and she stopped complaining. The only thing that was kind of a nightmare was Xcode. I'm updating it, and if I were you, I'd update right away too. There are many improvements.
- 0des 5y ago
  What improvements in your girlfriend's daily workflow would she say are most notable, did she mention?
  - henvic 5y ago
    Performance-wise is much better. Animations are smooth, and even AirPlay seems to work better. Safari is also slightly better, although she dislikes the new way it organizes tabs. That said, the thing she told me she liked the most, feature-wise related to her daily workflow, is the new Shortcuts app.
heavymark 5y ago
Have been using since June and haven't ran into any bugs/issues that prevents me from doing work. Unlike previous macOS betas were often there was at least one or two that would break things.
trydis 5y ago
Been better than Big Sur so far for me, on 16". Have had temperature issues with Big Sur, resulting in decreased perf due to clocking down (even with TG Pro). Now consistently 5-10 degrees cooler and less fan noise. Using "Intel Power gadget" to see the CPU frequency. EDIT: I did not install it until the RC.
- mrgalaxy 5y ago
  Oh interesting, I'll keep an eye out on temperature under Big Sur. If I see it getting bad that's an easy reason to upgrade.
- mseri 5y ago
  I had the same experience. I installed the RC and it has been working surprisingly smoothly on my intel macbook pro (15’’ 2018)
guruz 5y ago
That's exactly what I do each autumn: Update to the macOS version from autumn last year. So far I was fine with it though of course sometimes it's annoying to get the latest XCode (and iOS sdk) version for development, so I have to resort to a VM from time to time. Helpful website: https://xcodereleases.com/ https://xcodereleases.com/
L0stLink 5y ago
If it is your work machine than you probably shouldn't upgrade right away, give it a week or two (esp. if you work with old/outdated dependencies or packages). For personal machines I would be less cautious.
jedberg 5y ago
It's been pretty good, although it still has some strange bugs, but those might be a me problem. Namely, Mission Control crashes on me about 15 times a day. I have to 'killall Dock' to bring it back. Also, using Cmd-Space to launch apps is janky -- if I type say Saf, it will say "Safari.app" for about .7 seconds and then the autocomplete goes away. So I have to enter in those .7 seconds. Other than those two things, it's been pretty solid lately.
concinds 5y ago
SharePlay to Mac is utterly broken, see my other comment. Other than that, it seems more stable and faster than Big Sur, and that's without a clean install. Notes used to take 4 bounces to open on M1, now opens instantly. Haven't seen any crashing. No broken features that aren't brand new. I've only found one bug: Safari reopens private windows even if you turn that off. But no problem if you don't use Safari.
solarkraft 5y ago
The beta was terrible, up to memory leaks in applications in the latest release candidate. As a new user I under-estimated the amount of irritating bugs they would ship. I sure hope the release is better.
jorl17 5y ago
This extremely aggravating Bluetooth issue is driving me insane: https://reddit.com/r/MacOSBeta/comments/q1trtn/bluetooth_connectivity_cuts_out_issues/ https://reddit.com/r/MacOSBeta/comments/q1trtn/bluetooth_con... I’m running out of ideas on how to fix this.
Ambroos 5y ago
I've been using it since a few betas in on all my devices, with zero issues. Anecdata and my work is mostly Chrome(/ium) and Android Studio.
tunesmith 5y ago
> Ironically I just upgraded to Big Sur yesterday from Catalina. I intended to do the same this morning and literally witnessed the "Upgrade Now" change from Big Sur to Monterey as I was about to click it. Took me a while to find the appropriate link for Big Sur in the Mac App Store.
diebeforei485 5y ago
11.6.1 (the latest Big Sur) was out this morning, so you may have to check for updates again.

How stable is Monterey for those that have been using it? Ironically I just upgraded to Big Sur yesterday from Catalina. I think I'll probably wait again to let 3rd-party apps catch up.

henvic 5y ago

I've kind of indirect experience: my girlfriend is an iOS developer, and has been using it on her only Mac for a while. In the beginning it was awful for her. A lot of failures. However, after a couple of months it became quite stable, and she stopped complaining. The only thing that was kind of a nightmare was Xcode. I'm updating it, and if I were you, I'd update right away too. There are many improvements.

0des 5y ago
What improvements in your girlfriend's daily workflow would she say are most notable, did she mention?
- henvic 5y ago
  Performance-wise is much better. Animations are smooth, and even AirPlay seems to work better. Safari is also slightly better, although she dislikes the new way it organizes tabs. That said, the thing she told me she liked the most, feature-wise related to her daily workflow, is the new Shortcuts app.

heavymark 5y ago

Have been using since June and haven't ran into any bugs/issues that prevents me from doing work. Unlike previous macOS betas were often there was at least one or two that would break things.

trydis 5y ago

Been better than Big Sur so far for me, on 16". Have had temperature issues with Big Sur, resulting in decreased perf due to clocking down (even with TG Pro). Now consistently 5-10 degrees cooler and less fan noise. Using "Intel Power gadget" to see the CPU frequency. EDIT: I did not install it until the RC.

mrgalaxy 5y ago
Oh interesting, I'll keep an eye out on temperature under Big Sur. If I see it getting bad that's an easy reason to upgrade.
mseri 5y ago
I had the same experience. I installed the RC and it has been working surprisingly smoothly on my intel macbook pro (15’’ 2018)

guruz 5y ago

That's exactly what I do each autumn: Update to the macOS version from autumn last year. So far I was fine with it though of course sometimes it's annoying to get the latest XCode (and iOS sdk) version for development, so I have to resort to a VM from time to time. Helpful website: https://xcodereleases.com/ https://xcodereleases.com/

L0stLink 5y ago

If it is your work machine than you probably shouldn't upgrade right away, give it a week or two (esp. if you work with old/outdated dependencies or packages). For personal machines I would be less cautious.

jedberg 5y ago

It's been pretty good, although it still has some strange bugs, but those might be a me problem. Namely, Mission Control crashes on me about 15 times a day. I have to 'killall Dock' to bring it back. Also, using Cmd-Space to launch apps is janky -- if I type say Saf, it will say "Safari.app" for about .7 seconds and then the autocomplete goes away. So I have to enter in those .7 seconds. Other than those two things, it's been pretty solid lately.

concinds 5y ago

SharePlay to Mac is utterly broken, see my other comment. Other than that, it seems more stable and faster than Big Sur, and that's without a clean install. Notes used to take 4 bounces to open on M1, now opens instantly. Haven't seen any crashing. No broken features that aren't brand new. I've only found one bug: Safari reopens private windows even if you turn that off. But no problem if you don't use Safari.

solarkraft 5y ago

The beta was terrible, up to memory leaks in applications in the latest release candidate. As a new user I under-estimated the amount of irritating bugs they would ship. I sure hope the release is better.

jorl17 5y ago

This extremely aggravating Bluetooth issue is driving me insane: https://reddit.com/r/MacOSBeta/comments/q1trtn/bluetooth_connectivity_cuts_out_issues/ https://reddit.com/r/MacOSBeta/comments/q1trtn/bluetooth_con... I’m running out of ideas on how to fix this.

Ambroos 5y ago

I've been using it since a few betas in on all my devices, with zero issues. Anecdata and my work is mostly Chrome(/ium) and Android Studio.

tunesmith 5y ago

> Ironically I just upgraded to Big Sur yesterday from Catalina. I intended to do the same this morning and literally witnessed the "Upgrade Now" change from Big Sur to Monterey as I was about to click it. Took me a while to find the appropriate link for Big Sur in the Mac App Store.

diebeforei485 5y ago

11.6.1 (the latest Big Sur) was out this morning, so you may have to check for updates again.