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Been in Paris two weeks ago as well to visit my girlfriend who's been living there for 11 years. Scooters are in the process of being banned in Paris because t

Been in Paris two weeks ago as well to visit my girlfriend who's been living there for 11 years. Scooters are in the process of being banned in Paris because they are too dangerous and in Rome, where I come from, they are going yo be heavily regulated (mandatory helmet, reduced speed, designated pick up and drop locations, etc. ) because they caused a +35% increase of brain traumas to teenagers Not everything that looks cool on first sight it's an actual improvement.

Scoundreller 5y ago
I wonder if they’ll actually enforce the scooter ban on private ones. Because they certainly don’t enforce traffic laws on motos lane splitting constantly anywhere.
- peoplefromibiza 5y ago
  Speculating here because I am not aware of the details, but I guess they will be regulated the same way mopeds are: license plates, helmets and all that stuff.
- _nalply 5y ago
  Haha. I rented a car. This gave me the feeling that it is inofficially tolerated by the police. But driving on the bus lanes is very strictly verboten even for motos and using the bike lanes is frowned upon. I once saw a lorry unloading on a bike lane and a police car stopping by the driver and after some gesticulating the police seemed to admonish the driver like this: okay but get away from here ASAP!
xwdv 5y ago
It would be a shame if they are banned as it is one of the most efficient and enjoyable ways to get around the city.
- kevin_thibedeau 5y ago
  In principle it's a great idea but from the picture it looks like they're monopolizing a shared resource. This isn't fundamentally different than adults parading around during Critical Mass.
- peoplefromibiza 5y ago
  In my opinion they certainly bring the fun factor, but regarding efficency they offer no real advantage over electric mopeds, especially when riding them with a passenger. They are probably more "portable" though.
  - jseban 5y ago
    Electric mopeds are amazing, best way of transporting yourself in a city when the weather allows. It has all the benefits, the only downside is that you can't really use it in rain or snow.
bserge 5y ago
*teenagers who fall. Really could've been reduced by a lot with a few simple instructions in the app. Stick to the right, don't speed, be careful, etc. Who the fuck falls off a scooter, anyway.
- brailsafe 5y ago
  Have never ridden one, but I assume you could easily crash into a person, car, curb, signpost, other scooterers, hit a rock etc.. Simple instructions don't solve anything, and represent a design flaw. If the design doesn't inherently address the problem you want to solve, then text definitely won't.
  - bserge 5y ago
    Well, I'm saying that because people don't even realize they need to treat the road somewhat like a car driver. Like, literally, they install the app and get on the scooter and do 20km/h on the opposite side then are surprised that there's people and bikes coming right into them. A simple "stick to your right" would help a lot of them imo. And it's really hard to crash one ime, but then again I somehow never fell or crashed a bicycle for half my life.
    - brailsafe 5y ago
      Ya idk that sounds pretty bad tbh. It is arguably a result of poor road design as well, but some people will just do some bizarre stuff.
- peoplefromibiza 5y ago
  Not a judgment on my side on teenagers, this is from an Italian source translated through Google The numbers are quite bad https://www-inmoto-it.translate.goog/news/altre-notizie/cronaca/2021/10/01-4764275/monopattini_elettrici_a_roma_a_settembre_400_di_incidenti_gravi?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=it&_x_tr_pto=nui https://www-inmoto-it.translate.goog/news/altre-notizie/cron...
- claytoneast 5y ago

Scoundreller 5y ago

I wonder if they’ll actually enforce the scooter ban on private ones. Because they certainly don’t enforce traffic laws on motos lane splitting constantly anywhere.

peoplefromibiza 5y ago
Speculating here because I am not aware of the details, but I guess they will be regulated the same way mopeds are: license plates, helmets and all that stuff.
_nalply 5y ago
Haha. I rented a car. This gave me the feeling that it is inofficially tolerated by the police. But driving on the bus lanes is very strictly verboten even for motos and using the bike lanes is frowned upon. I once saw a lorry unloading on a bike lane and a police car stopping by the driver and after some gesticulating the police seemed to admonish the driver like this: okay but get away from here ASAP!

xwdv 5y ago

It would be a shame if they are banned as it is one of the most efficient and enjoyable ways to get around the city.

kevin_thibedeau 5y ago
In principle it's a great idea but from the picture it looks like they're monopolizing a shared resource. This isn't fundamentally different than adults parading around during Critical Mass.
peoplefromibiza 5y ago
In my opinion they certainly bring the fun factor, but regarding efficency they offer no real advantage over electric mopeds, especially when riding them with a passenger. They are probably more "portable" though.
- jseban 5y ago
  Electric mopeds are amazing, best way of transporting yourself in a city when the weather allows. It has all the benefits, the only downside is that you can't really use it in rain or snow.

bserge 5y ago

*teenagers who fall. Really could've been reduced by a lot with a few simple instructions in the app. Stick to the right, don't speed, be careful, etc. Who the fuck falls off a scooter, anyway.

brailsafe 5y ago
Have never ridden one, but I assume you could easily crash into a person, car, curb, signpost, other scooterers, hit a rock etc.. Simple instructions don't solve anything, and represent a design flaw. If the design doesn't inherently address the problem you want to solve, then text definitely won't.
- bserge 5y ago
  Well, I'm saying that because people don't even realize they need to treat the road somewhat like a car driver. Like, literally, they install the app and get on the scooter and do 20km/h on the opposite side then are surprised that there's people and bikes coming right into them. A simple "stick to your right" would help a lot of them imo. And it's really hard to crash one ime, but then again I somehow never fell or crashed a bicycle for half my life.
  - brailsafe 5y ago
    Ya idk that sounds pretty bad tbh. It is arguably a result of poor road design as well, but some people will just do some bizarre stuff.
peoplefromibiza 5y ago
Not a judgment on my side on teenagers, this is from an Italian source translated through Google The numbers are quite bad https://www-inmoto-it.translate.goog/news/altre-notizie/cronaca/2021/10/01-4764275/monopattini_elettrici_a_roma_a_settembre_400_di_incidenti_gravi?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=it&_x_tr_pto=nui https://www-inmoto-it.translate.goog/news/altre-notizie/cron...
claytoneast 5y ago