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So what should we do? Locking everyone up seems like it would be even more expensive with even worse long-term results.
by ProjectArcturis 5y ago
So what should we do? Locking everyone up seems like it would be even more expensive with even worse long-term results.
- mgummelt 5y agoSocial services, with punishment for not participating.
- baby 5y agoI listened to part of the podcast and if I remember correctly his proposed solution is to offer treatment and housing, but it you don’t follow that road: prison. No idea if that’s a good idea, but living in SF I can definitely say that whatever the city, or even the US as a country, has been doing until now has been useless. Disclaimer: I used to live in Chicago, and while not as bad as sf, the homeless situation was the worst I had seen in my life at that time. So that sorts of tells me that this might be a national issue, not just an sf issue although it is definitely much more noticable in SF.
- droopyEyelids 5y agoI do some work with the homeless in chicago, and the people you see living on the street are, by and large, not drug addicts. In Chicago, drug addicts are transient-homeless. They're in and out of shelters as they get evicted or kicked out of a place, but they find somewhere new (indoors) to live. Some may be periodic homeless. The chronic homeless in Chicago are usually physically and mentally disabled, and while they may drink, it's not substance abuse that keeps them from holding down a job and getting shelter. One of the recent encampments we visited had an interesting story. It sits on what was the future site of a factory, and the group had all gathered there to work as labor for the construction. However, the builders found contaminated soil, and were working on a mitigation plan when covid hit, and these guys (and a few women) have been living there ever since. They recently called the police because someone who moved in to camp had stolen propane tanks from the neighborhood grills. They're not all like that but it's a much different scene than a warm weather city's homeless camps. Edit: One thing that makes this plain is the lack of sharps in the chicago homeless camps. Most of the time you won't see orange caps!
- baby 5y agoTrue! Not the same homeless population. Chicago homeless begs aggressively, the one in SF are just zombies.
- rkk3 5y ago> Chicago homeless begs aggressively, the one in SF are just zombies. Have had many outdoor dining experiences in SF that I would consider aggressive begging...
- baby 5y agoI feel like it’s rare to be asked for money in SF. While in chicago everyday on your path you will hear the noise of agressive coin shaking.
- StanislavPetrov 5y agoBuild facilities to rehabilitate drug addicts and facilities to treat and house the mentally ill. Allowing those who cannot take care of the themselves to roam the streets and engage in behavior that is self-destructive and destructive to society is not compassionate or logical - its a system that has proven to be a failure.
- tayo42 5y agoWhy do we need to do anything? Whats the problem with people being homeless and keeping to them selves?
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- robbyt 5y agoz
- tayo42 5y agoSo being homeless isnt the problem, mudering isnt exclusive to homeless people. Drugs and prostitution aren't problems. Cities not having adequate public serivces like bathrooms is a problem.