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At this point I think the feedback loop is unstoppable: The lower Firefox's marketshare gets the fewer developers test their pages on it, the more pages don't w

At this point I think the feedback loop is unstoppable: The lower Firefox's marketshare gets the fewer developers test their pages on it, the more pages don't work on Firefox, pushing more people to Chrome.

xps 5y ago
I use Firefox exclusively and I can't remember the last time I've had to switch to Chrome because the page wasn't working in Firefox.
lbriner 5y ago
I use FF at home and work and have done for probably 3 or 4 years. I think I can count on 1 hand the number of pages that have not worked and needed to be loaded on another browser. Mostly, it was horrible old sites that were designed for IE. Of course ymmv
ciprian_craciun 5y ago
In fact just yesterday I was submitting feedback to a retailer about it's website's poor user experience, and they've said "it works best with Chrome". :) And this is not an isolated case... Each time I've had to submit a complaint about issues encountered while using a webapp / website (including for payment systems, utility companies, local government, etc.) I often get the same response: "try it with Chrome" or "we support only Chrome". I still remember the "works best with Internet Explorer", which then changed to "works best with Firefox", and now it seems "works best with Chrome"... :)
prirai 5y ago
Follow web standards, not browsers.
gadrev 5y ago
What doesn't work in Firefox? For my day to day use everything works fine. I don't remember anything that didn't except the vscode.dev thing that appeared in the front page yesterday. Apparently the local file access is not supported/enabled in Firefox yet. And when I was messing with CSS a few months ago there was... background-blur? Or something like that, not supported in Firefox. But pretty minor things. Don't remember anything else where I had to switch to chromium lately.
- jitl 5y ago
  There are plenty of paper cuts due to the differences of funding between Firefox and the other browsers. IndexedDB and ContentEditable are both a bit more weird and buggy in Firefox than in Chromium. Often when I release a new feature, we find out it’s buggy in some old version of Firefox on a specific Linux distribution that’s doing something a little odd to Firefox’s source code or build process.
- __turbobrew__ 5y ago
  Slack calls and Microsoft teams calls (you can attend meetings, but cant share your audio/video) don’t work in firefox.
- fragile_frogs 5y ago
  Zoom on Firefox only has the speaker view, if you want to have the grid view to see everyone you'll have to use Chrome/Edge. I also have to use Figma on a daily basis and the there are some odd things happening in Firefox that don't appear in Chrome/Edge.
  - effie 5y ago
    Zooming in web browser is using the computer wrongly (TM). Just as using terminal or VDI client in web browser. It's wrong because security sucks, and bloat gets even bigger. These activities should be done through separate and well restricted dedicated applications.
    - computerfriend 5y ago
      Using the Zoom client is also using it wrongly, because you have to install some blob from an untrustworthy company that has historically been riddled with security bugs.

xps 5y ago

I use Firefox exclusively and I can't remember the last time I've had to switch to Chrome because the page wasn't working in Firefox.

lbriner 5y ago

I use FF at home and work and have done for probably 3 or 4 years. I think I can count on 1 hand the number of pages that have not worked and needed to be loaded on another browser. Mostly, it was horrible old sites that were designed for IE. Of course ymmv

ciprian_craciun 5y ago

In fact just yesterday I was submitting feedback to a retailer about it's website's poor user experience, and they've said "it works best with Chrome". :) And this is not an isolated case... Each time I've had to submit a complaint about issues encountered while using a webapp / website (including for payment systems, utility companies, local government, etc.) I often get the same response: "try it with Chrome" or "we support only Chrome". I still remember the "works best with Internet Explorer", which then changed to "works best with Firefox", and now it seems "works best with Chrome"... :)

prirai 5y ago

Follow web standards, not browsers.

gadrev 5y ago

What doesn't work in Firefox? For my day to day use everything works fine. I don't remember anything that didn't except the vscode.dev thing that appeared in the front page yesterday. Apparently the local file access is not supported/enabled in Firefox yet. And when I was messing with CSS a few months ago there was... background-blur? Or something like that, not supported in Firefox. But pretty minor things. Don't remember anything else where I had to switch to chromium lately.

jitl 5y ago
There are plenty of paper cuts due to the differences of funding between Firefox and the other browsers. IndexedDB and ContentEditable are both a bit more weird and buggy in Firefox than in Chromium. Often when I release a new feature, we find out it’s buggy in some old version of Firefox on a specific Linux distribution that’s doing something a little odd to Firefox’s source code or build process.
__turbobrew__ 5y ago
Slack calls and Microsoft teams calls (you can attend meetings, but cant share your audio/video) don’t work in firefox.
fragile_frogs 5y ago
Zoom on Firefox only has the speaker view, if you want to have the grid view to see everyone you'll have to use Chrome/Edge. I also have to use Figma on a daily basis and the there are some odd things happening in Firefox that don't appear in Chrome/Edge.
- effie 5y ago
  Zooming in web browser is using the computer wrongly (TM). Just as using terminal or VDI client in web browser. It's wrong because security sucks, and bloat gets even bigger. These activities should be done through separate and well restricted dedicated applications.
  - computerfriend 5y ago
    Using the Zoom client is also using it wrongly, because you have to install some blob from an untrustworthy company that has historically been riddled with security bugs.