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Ask HN: Are you willing to live with Covid-19 cases in society?

3 points by kkcorps 5y ago

or are you firm believer that we can make cases to zero in the next 1-2 years? Also, if possible, what is your country's / state's government stance on this?

verdverm 5y ago
Zero seems like a pipedream at this point. Counter question, how long are you willing to deal with biannual shots and covid related restrictions?
- kkcorps 5y ago
  My personal opinion is to impose restrictions only when healthcare system is over-burdened (e.g. 50-60% occupancy rates in hospitals). Other than that, I am fine with biannual shots and mask but no other restrictions.
  - verdverm 5y ago
    Masks forever, really? How will that impact humanity? How do you ensure people get their shots? Hospitals have always been above your mark for restrictions. https://www.statista.com/statistics/185904/hospital-occupancy-rate-in-the-us-since-2001/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/185904/hospital-occupanc...
h2odragon 5y ago
Yes. In the US, at least my area, the window for public action to make a difference passed by April 2020; after that its into the wildlife and we're living with it want to or not. All the hysteria since then has been pointless (as far as public health is concerned) political kabuki that has been corrosive to mental health on an individual and social level. We didn't need to do this to ourselves.
nradov 5y ago
Willingness or lack thereof is irrelevant. There is no possibility of zero cases. There are many animal hosts and the vaccines, while effective at preventing deaths, don't reliably prevent infection or transmission.
G79 5y ago
Yes. Western countries have been going into mass hysteria over this, prompted by their government leaders and media. While the initial panic would have served the purpose of making everyone aware of the risks, this ongoing behavioural psychologist nudge terror is the type of overkill that will result in cultural and mental dysfunction for a generation, if not more. Guess who stands to benefit the most- it isn't people at ground level, that's for sure.

3 points by kkcorps 5y ago

or are you firm believer that we can make cases to zero in the next 1-2 years? Also, if possible, what is your country's / state's government stance on this?

verdverm 5y ago

Zero seems like a pipedream at this point. Counter question, how long are you willing to deal with biannual shots and covid related restrictions?

kkcorps 5y ago
My personal opinion is to impose restrictions only when healthcare system is over-burdened (e.g. 50-60% occupancy rates in hospitals). Other than that, I am fine with biannual shots and mask but no other restrictions.
- verdverm 5y ago
  Masks forever, really? How will that impact humanity? How do you ensure people get their shots? Hospitals have always been above your mark for restrictions. https://www.statista.com/statistics/185904/hospital-occupancy-rate-in-the-us-since-2001/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/185904/hospital-occupanc...

h2odragon 5y ago

Yes. In the US, at least my area, the window for public action to make a difference passed by April 2020; after that its into the wildlife and we're living with it want to or not. All the hysteria since then has been pointless (as far as public health is concerned) political kabuki that has been corrosive to mental health on an individual and social level. We didn't need to do this to ourselves.

nradov 5y ago

Willingness or lack thereof is irrelevant. There is no possibility of zero cases. There are many animal hosts and the vaccines, while effective at preventing deaths, don't reliably prevent infection or transmission.

G79 5y ago

Yes. Western countries have been going into mass hysteria over this, prompted by their government leaders and media. While the initial panic would have served the purpose of making everyone aware of the risks, this ongoing behavioural psychologist nudge terror is the type of overkill that will result in cultural and mental dysfunction for a generation, if not more. Guess who stands to benefit the most- it isn't people at ground level, that's for sure.