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Nearly 1,900 Washington state employees quit, fired over vaccine mandate
- over_bridge 5y agoWhere do they think they will work next? Can they really not see how universal these mandates are becoming? Lifelong unemployment just to prove a point?
- imprisonedinvic 5y agoFor myself the resolution is suicide, if they come after me. I never though I gather enough courage, but I learned something about myself, and, sadly, about people around. With little goodies I acquired during endless lockdown there isn't more than couple years for me left anyways. So, fail hard, fail quickly is the only option. Hope you all rejoice and will live forever. After all, your sweet percentage will go up.
- AndrewUnmuted 5y agoHi there, you replied to a post I made a little while back. Your reply has touched a lot of the people I know and it's really strengthened the resolve of many of the people I know in my community. I hope you are OK with me having shared a screenshot of it; I could not bare to let your words go unread by those fighting against these terroristic mandates against the people. Please hang in there and know that there are a lot of others like you out there as well. There is a groundswell that will be taking place.
- jljljl 5y ago92% of employees are vaccinated. The % who quit or were terminated over the mandate is 3%: > A separate 3 percent of employees, 1,887, have left their jobs or were terminated as part of the mandate.
- hindsightbias 5y agoVax policies are finally giving us the smaller gov’t so many administrations have failed to do.
- bozhark 5y agoper the article, those positions will be filled.
- seanmcdirmid 5y agoThey will try to fill them. Washington State is having a bit of a hard time hiring right now given the current worker shortage and state pay steadily losing ground against private sector pay.
- freyir 5y agoAnti-vaxxers tend to be Republicans too. Finally putting their money where there mouth when it comes to smaller government.
- gremloni 5y agoI know I should mourn the loss of jobs but I just love this so much.
- bediger4000 5y agoHey, those people either quit outright, or were informed multiple times about the consequences of inaction. It's their choice, not really a loss of jobs.
- Gibbon1 5y agoThe jobs are still there.
- gremloni 5y agoGood point. This just gets better and better.
- peteradio 5y agoI wonder if there will be successful discrimination lawsuits. I'm kind of frightened at the precedent being set here. I've heard all the "prior precedent" but fail to see it matching the scale of whats happening here.
- gremloni 5y ago“Discrimination” lawsuits would be like lawsuits from people that didn’t pay their taxes because they think taxes are unconstitutional.
- bediger4000 5y agoAs I understand it, someone has to be a member of some "protected class" to sue over discrimination. I'm guessing that the protected classes vary based on the issue. I sincerely doubt that "anti-vaxxer" is a protected class. I'm guessing that some suits will be filed, and those filing the suit will have to come up with membership in a protected class, otherwise the suit will be tossed for lack of standing. The suits that don't get tossed will be decided on the basis of "are you really in that protected class". That's a dual-edged sword. Make it super-easy to claim religious group membership? You've just made it super-easy for peace churches to really go after registering for selective service.
- AnimalMuppet 5y agoHow about people who, for one reason or another, can't get vaccinated for medical reasons? Sure, in any reasonable system, they would be exempt from the requirement. But were they? If not, they almost certainly have legitimate grounds for a suit. And it doesn't have to be a discrimination suit. It can be a suit alleging, for example, unreasonable requirements for employment. (Do you have to be vaccinated for measles to be employed by Washington? How about influenza? If not, then what's the rationale for requiring Covid and not the others?)
- otabdeveloper4 5y ago> legitimate grounds for a suit Ah, must be nice living in 2018. I remember those days in the Before Times.
- mensetmanusman 5y agoWith natural immunity showing a better robustness response than the vaccines, I wonder if they had exemptions for that.
- Jason_Protell 5y agosource?
- 22c 5y agoFirst page of google... https://ncrc.jhsph.edu/research/comparing-sars-cov-2-natural-immunity-to-vaccine-induced-immunity-reinfections-versus-breakthrough-infections/ https://ncrc.jhsph.edu/research/comparing-sars-cov-2-natural... https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19 https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting... etc.
- Jason_Protell 5y agoSo breakthrough infections are more likely for people who have been vaccinated vs people who have already caught SARS-CoV-2 and developed natural immunity. Interesting. Still a good idea to get vaccinated to fight / reduce risk of infection.
- FjolsvithAase 5y agoIf only getting vaccinated prevented getting infected...
- mensetmanusman 5y agoIt is a good idea in the abstract, but ignoring that natural immunity is better is extremely expensive.
- klyrs 5y agoPreferring natural immunity to sensible precautions including vaccines is extremely costly in terms of human life.
- earleybird 5y agoBeing fully vaccinated I'm still concerned about the precedent of making a medical procedure a requirement for employment. Almost two years of working remote might lead one to think that accommodation was possible but willfully ignored.
- klyrs 5y agoIt's not like this is anything new. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/09/08/vaccine-mandate-strong-supreme-court-precedent-510280 https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/09/08/vaccine-ma...