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This is a little ridiculous. You expect elementary school students, now removed from their gifted classes, to "push the entire standard of education up for ever

This is a little ridiculous. You expect elementary school students, now removed from their gifted classes, to "push the entire standard of education up for everyone"? I think they will be a little too concerned with Minecraft and Roblox to support your grand ideas of social justice and moral responsibility.

aaomidi 5y ago
> I think they will be a little too concerned with Minecraft and Roblox to support your grand ideas of social justice and moral responsibility. I mean other than the fact that this is extremely dismissive, again, Finland is the example that did get rid of all this crap and is doing pretty well for itself.
- lrem 5y ago
  Are you from Finland to be so sure of your argument? I've been a "gifted" kid so I'm sure about your interlocutor's. My parents have been summoned, more than once, to have a discussion about a group of four problematic pupils spending ~75% of the time playing cards. Turns out that we were consistently finishing all of the assignments, including the stretch goals, at the beginning and spent the rest of the time waiting for the others to catch up. But somehow none of us got an idea to try to tutor a bully or something. The system also didn't have a response to this.
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- 1123581321 5y ago
  Finland significantly increased the education standards for teachers and fired a lot of bad ones. Those two things will never happen in the US.
- dmitrygr 5y ago
  > is doing pretty well for itself. Yup, world leader in startups, inventions, science, etc... oh wait...