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1,200 an hour! Jeez, that is insane! good for them. Once in a while, I come across something like this and wonder, what is it like to be that rich to casually
by akudha 5y ago
1,200 an hour!
Jeez, that is insane! good for them.
Once in a while, I come across something like this and wonder, what is it like to be that rich to casually drop 1,200 an hour, for anything, let alone on escorts.
- spoonjim 5y agoWell many people spend $12,000 a year on a hobby like travel, skiing, whatever. One escort a month is similar. Very few consume it hourly at the same volume as say Netflix.
- bluecalm 5y agoWell, you get hundreds of hours of skiing or travelling for that 12k. Not fair to compare to once a month an hour long date.
- dustintrex 5y agoThe same stats also note that the median income for an escort is $5000 per month, or $60k/year. And for what it's worth, flying to many places with a family of four can cost $1200/hour even in economy class.
- refurb 5y agoThere was an article about prostitution in Germany (legal) where Eastern European women will offer services for as low as 10 EUR. Race to the bottom?
- rudian 5y agoTo charge high prices you have to be attractive. Old, overweight prostitutes can’t charge as much as models. As someone who used services in the past, I don’t understand why anyone would spend any money at all on those… but they do find clients. Maybe it’s because if I lower my standards I can just easily find someone “for free” instead.
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoTally up the cost of "free". People will pay for convenience and certainty.
- durnygbur 5y agoOne must be really a hopeless ugly German to pay a woman from EE for sex. They hope for a relationship anchoring them in the country and need a guide through the ruthless rules and bureaucracy, you receive sex free of charge. Bulgaria, Romania, Moldavia, Poland, Belarus, Ukraine - you pick the flavour. Historical justice... not.
- mschuster91 5y ago> One must be really a hopeless ugly German to pay a woman from EE for sex. Not really, if you are interested in obtaining paid sex you don't have much choice. Most of the brothels are staffed by EE sex workers, been that way for well over a decade. German sex workers are rare in brothels, they work mostly escort and camgirl stuff. The problem at its core is extreme poverty in EE - not many job opportunities that pay decent wages, so many people from there come to the nearest wealthy country aka Germany. Men go on the construction/agriculture gig job scene, women to prostitution... it doesn't pay much and the conditions both of work and living are extremely bad (just google "Arbeiterstrich München" if you want newspaper reports on the construction gig workers), but even this is better than life in their origin countries. As a result, German workers simply can't afford to work in this environment.
- zajio1am 5y agoMany EE countries are already in EU, their citizens do not need to go through ruthless rules and bureaucracy to live in Germany, they just need to find any work there.
- loxias 5y ago> 1,200 an hour! I've always been mildly curious, my first thoughts were "Less than I thought!". Hear me out (criticism of my thinking on this is very welcome): In LA's Ktown, a Domi (a job I had no idea existed just a few years ago... google if curious) charges a base rate of $100/hr, plus tips. For the client, there is no guarantee of nudity or any physical contact, though it's of course up to each individual what they're willing to do (and for how much). From the perspective of the client, $100/hr buys you in-person company in a public setting with someone young, conventionally attractive, dressed skimpily. The person will (pretend to) politely listen to you as you talk, (pretend to) smile, (pretend to) laugh at your jokes, pour drinks for you, (pretend to) agree with your opinions, and, if they choose to, drink with you. The market supports that price ($100/hr!) for work that does not require ANY sex as requisite. I imagined "entry level" sex work would be priced ~10x (min 7x) over work done (skimpily) clothed and in public, and that, like many other goods and services, "luxury" would have a multiplier over "entry level brand" between 5x and the stratosphere. (I guess with cars it's ~3x.) These assumptions yield a price of $5k/hr for "luxury brand sex work", ~4x the empirical data. If we assume that "luxury" has a multiplier of just 3x (but I bet it's more!), then the ratio of the market price of sex work over somewhat similar (companionship, paid to be pretty and objectified) work done clothed and in a public venue, in the same city,... can be at most 4x. Only 4x? This is what shocks me! :)
- akudha 5y agoI have no experience with this industry, I don't know what Domi is. I was simply looking at the numbers from my very limited (zero) understanding of the economics of sex work and economics in general. $1,200 is two months of my food budget, when I eat well, lol. Somebody reading this comment (probably making minimum wage) might be thinking 20$ (1200/60) per day food budget is a luxury. Anyway, all I was wondering is - a super tiny percentage of the population can afford to spend 1200 an hour, on anything. Must be nice to be that rich, lol.
- system2 5y agoAre you eating outside with $600 or at home?
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- LurkingPenguin 5y agoAnd also: > 8% reported legal trouble > 8% reported being arrested > 16% reported physical assault > 17% reported contracting a STD > 29% reported being stolen from > 41% reported sexual assault So no doubt the rates are in part a reflection of the risks providers take in the course of offering their services.
- _z6tl 5y agoAnd no doubt the risks decrease as the hourly rate increases.
- LurkingPenguin 5y agoI'm not sure that's true. There are wealthy, powerful men who can pay any hourly rate for sex and who are practically above the law in many parts of the world. It would be a mistake to assume that some of them wouldn't assault an escort in the not inaccurate belief that they can do whatever they want with impunity.
- dmurray 5y ago> I'm not sure that's true. It is backed up by the author's analytics, though. Perhaps there are valid criticisms about her sampling methodology and the sample size at the very high end, but it's a good start.
- _z6tl 5y agoI did not make any such assumptions, and I did not say it’s zero risk, I simply said that the risks are likely to decrease as hourly rates go higher.
- system2 5y ago> 17% reported contracting a STD I wonder if any money is worth having an extreme risk of getting a deadly virus.
- guythedudebro 5y ago
- iudqnolq 5y ago> Once in a while, I come across something like this and wonder, what is it like to be that rich to casually drop 1,200 an hour, for anything, let alone on escorts. Median income is $100,000/yr. My impression (from HN) is this isn't abnormal for non-entry-level tech workers in the US. Edit: It's just about the median software engineer salary in the US. https://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/software-developer/salary https://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/software-develope... Edit2: This previous read "100,000/hr". A transcription mistake.
- otterley 5y agoI think you're off by a factor of about 2,000 (work hours per year).
- quantified 5y agoSoftware engineers only working 2k hours a year?
- iudqnolq 5y agoEdit: I didn't realize this person was pointing out a typo. Disagree. High end work of all sorts isn't the sort of thing you punch in and out of. Both have a high opportunity cost, in that in both cases you'll find it hard to work a similarly compensated second job. Also remember this is only "billable hours". Edit: I just realized you've completely missed my point. I was replying to a comment the clients (i.e. not the sex workers) are crazy rich. I was presenting an argument for why they aren't.
- tennisflyi 5y agoI saw a very popular pornstar for $1,600. No regrets.
- another_why 5y agoWho was she? Asking for a friend
- tomc1985 5y agoIt strikes me somewhat oddly that one might pay so much for something that literally half the people on this planet is equipped to provide You're paying for looks, ease, simplicity, no strings, and so on... I get it. But idunno, that is a lot of money for one nut. Also suprised the San Diego price is so high, when there is a red light district literally on the border in Tijuana, and those girls charge $60-$100/hr US to gringos (and less to spanish-speakers, locals, and people who pay in pesos)
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago>It strikes me somewhat oddly that one might pay so much for something that literally half the people on this planet is equipped to provide People will pay for convenience. Also, if you are the higher paid earner in stable relationship I invite you to tally up the monthly cost sometime.
- eurasiantiger 5y agoImagine if a group of people benefited from shaming male masturbation!
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y agoEquipped to provide does not imply willing to provide.
- ClumsyPilot 5y agoIndeed, everyone has a kidney, very few are will to provide it.
- aborsy 5y agoKidney is a fixed zero sum resource. Sex is not.
- csomar 5y agoThis is the high-end price. It's not for every man and definitively not for every woman. While some intelligence is required to charge these high prices, some genetics lottery luck is also required. > It strikes me somewhat oddly that one might pay so much for something that literally half the people on this planet is equipped to provide High-end is basically differentiating yourself from average. > You're paying for looks, ease, simplicity, no strings, and so on... I get it. But idunno, that is a lot of money for one nut. It's cheap if you are rich and worried about lawsuits, law enforcement, blackmailing, your reputation, etc... Suddenly, $1200/h is quite cheap.
- kwertyoowiyop 5y agoThat could be much cheaper than getting married and divorced.
- akomtu 5y agoThis is indeed cheap. The alternative is marriage that's gonna last 5 years and cost 1 million. That's 4k or 4 hours (discount for large order) per week - more than enough for most men who are able to marry such women. Sorry for my cynical view.