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> .5¢ per 1000 items LISTed seems insanely expensive considering how cheaply you can transfer terabytes of data with S3. Correction: I misread - .5¢ per 1,000,

by donatj 5y ago

> .5¢ per 1000 items LISTed seems insanely expensive considering how cheaply you can transfer terabytes of data with S3. Correction: I misread - .5¢ per 1,000,000 items LISTed .5¢ per 1000 LIST operations LIST operations max out at 1000 items Still a little pricey, but way less so than I'd imagined. Do they make a lot of money off of charging for basic operations? It seems like you could make the whole pricing structure a lot more friendly by only charging for bandwidth use. I guess when you're as dominant as S3, you don't need to care about friendly pricing structures. Charging for basic operations like that is weird, it's akin to a service charging people per number of clicks on a website.

codazoda 5y ago
There's money in confusion... I'm terrified of using the existing cloud services for personal projects. For business projects you can mostly just get an idea of how much your month-to-month bill will increase with certain actions, but it's sure easy to blow a budget by accident.
- mywittyname 5y ago
  You should probably set up an LLC to handle billing for your personal projects if you plan on going with a big cloud provider. It sucks, but the fact is AWS/GCP/Azure aren't really designed for hobbyist, they are designed for massive corporations. Their free tiers exist merely as a service to help train professionals to use their platforms. Luckily, there are still good, low-cost providers out there.
dahart 5y ago
> .5¢ per 1000 items LISTed seems insanely expensive Note it’s $0.005 per 1k requests, not $0.05 per 1k items -- that’s an extra zero from what you said, and also important to point out that one request can list 1k items. So if you list in 1k batches, it’s $5 per million items listed.
- electroly 5y ago
  > So if you list in 1k batches, it’s $5 per million items listed. It's $0.005 per million items listed. A thousand requests of a thousand items each is your million items, and a thousand requests is $0.005.
  - dahart 5y ago
    Right! Indeed even I was missing three more zeros. So the GP comment was missing 7 zeros, it’s $5 per billion items listed. Yes $5c per 1k items would be very expensive, good thing it’s not that pricey.
SpicyLemonZest 5y ago
Listing is an expensive operation. I don't know the exact economics of it, but it's very plausible to me that serving 1000 LIST requests has a comparable resource cost to transferring a couple GB of data cross-region. (It should be noted that this definitely isn't a market dominance thing - every S3 competitor I'm familiar with also charges per-operation, and charges 10 times more for LIST than GET.)
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by donatj 5y ago

codazoda 5y ago

There's money in confusion... I'm terrified of using the existing cloud services for personal projects. For business projects you can mostly just get an idea of how much your month-to-month bill will increase with certain actions, but it's sure easy to blow a budget by accident.

mywittyname 5y ago
You should probably set up an LLC to handle billing for your personal projects if you plan on going with a big cloud provider. It sucks, but the fact is AWS/GCP/Azure aren't really designed for hobbyist, they are designed for massive corporations. Their free tiers exist merely as a service to help train professionals to use their platforms. Luckily, there are still good, low-cost providers out there.

dahart 5y ago

> .5¢ per 1000 items LISTed seems insanely expensive Note it’s $0.005 per 1k requests, not $0.05 per 1k items -- that’s an extra zero from what you said, and also important to point out that one request can list 1k items. So if you list in 1k batches, it’s $5 per million items listed.

electroly 5y ago
> So if you list in 1k batches, it’s $5 per million items listed. It's $0.005 per million items listed. A thousand requests of a thousand items each is your million items, and a thousand requests is $0.005.
- dahart 5y ago
  Right! Indeed even I was missing three more zeros. So the GP comment was missing 7 zeros, it’s $5 per billion items listed. Yes $5c per 1k items would be very expensive, good thing it’s not that pricey.

SpicyLemonZest 5y ago

Listing is an expensive operation. I don't know the exact economics of it, but it's very plausible to me that serving 1000 LIST requests has a comparable resource cost to transferring a couple GB of data cross-region. (It should be noted that this definitely isn't a market dominance thing - every S3 competitor I'm familiar with also charges per-operation, and charges 10 times more for LIST than GET.)

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