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When Americans picnicked in cemeteries

52 points by samclemens 5y ago

tokai 5y ago
In Copenhagen, Denmark the municipality is actively encouraging recreational use of the cities cemeteries. As they write "The cemetery is also for the living". Everything else seems like a waste of space imo. Respect and leisure ain't orthogonal. https://www.kk.dk/kirkegaarde https://www.kk.dk/kirkegaarde
- beckman466 5y ago
  love that. yes some are making it out to be something disrespectful somehow. i also would prefer if cemeteries were converted to parks to be green spaces available to all. spots in cemeteries are also usually only affordable for the propertied class too. for many in the working class they're not viable. do our cities really need to reserve and block off sizable physical spaces for decades, when we have a housing crisis in most cities around the world? i am all for beautiful ceremonies and the like, but the use of excessive physical space in cities seems outdated. consider also that we now have photos, video and other digital media to help us remember loved ones and keep them alive in our memory.
  - 7thaccount 5y ago
    I have two enormous cemeteries on either side of my neighborhood. However where I live, just going for a walk there would be considered disrespectful. It's outdated in my opinion. Cemeteries are a terrible waste of space and horrible for the environment too. Like you said, go ahead and have a beautiful ceremony. I've told my wife to cremate me or turn me into one of those tree things that people are talking about now. I don't want to be covered in all the chemicals and be used to destroy the planet. If you have an existing cemetery, at least convert it into a dual use space like the one in Boston with the fish ponds and maybe also put a playground up. There aren't nearly enough of those for parents of young children. Especially during a pandemic when you want to not cram 100 kids in a fairly small space.
    - wruza 5y ago
      Cremation also makes a significant carbon footprint, afaik. Best eco way to get rid of the body is to drop it to the sea floor.
      - 7thaccount 5y ago
        I've heard that too. Running the furnace likely consumes a fair amount of electricity, but I think that's a non problem with high renewables. Just don't run during peak. Is the carbon footprint that bad from the conversation to ashes process? If so, yeah, maybe ocean is best.
      - WorldMaker 5y ago
        I've heard we've made great advancements in human composting. Specifically composting combined with tree planting sounds like a great use of public spaces to rebuild some of our forest commons as opposed to traditional cemeteries.
  - jerf 5y ago
    "yes some are making it out to be something disrespectful somehow." "Some" are probably ignorant of the fact that cemeteries have been routinely moved in Western societies for centuries. It's not a new thing, and there are cultural procedures for doing it respectfully. It is also in a different sense a tradition to argue about who is going to pay for those procedures since they aren't the cheapest, but that's a separate matter. So, your question can be given a concrete answer: No, we aren't stuck with cemeteries forever in the place they were plopped down decades ago. That is a present reality, not something we have to aspire to.
aazaa 5y ago
> One of the reasons why eating in cemeteries become a “fad,” as some reporters called it, was that epidemics were raging across the country: Yellow fever and cholera flourished, children passed away before turning 10, women died during childbirth. Death was a constant visitor for many families, and in cemeteries, people could “talk” and break bread with family and friends, both living and deceased. It's fascinating that the article also notes that the older generation at the time (late 19th century) viewed the fad with disgust: > But plenty of Americans believed that picnics in local cemeteries were a “gruesome festivity.” This critique, notably from older generations, didn’t stop young adults from meeting up in graveyards. Instead it led to debate over proper conduct. This was a phenomenon driven by the times. Lots of deaths mean you spend a lot more time at the cemetery. Cemeteries started to lose their association with loss/decay and gained more of an association with remembrance. There's quite a lot on this topic, like this article, which notes that another reason for the pull of cemeteries at that time was the Civil War: > ... Beginning in the late 1800s, cemeteries were prime picnic spots. Remember, in the aftermath of the bloody Civil War and in an age of cholera and yellow fever, cities created large new cemeteries to accommodate the dead. Family farms or sacred churchyards were no longer the only spots for burial grounds. These new-age cemeteries looked and functioned more like public parks than stark, spooky graveyards. They featured professional landscaping, winding paths, ponds, and pavilions. https://connectingdirectors.com/55122-cemetery-picnics https://connectingdirectors.com/55122-cemetery-picnics
- thaumasiotes 5y ago
  There is a Chinese holiday, Qingming ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qingming_Festival https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qingming_Festival ), devoted to caring for ancestors' graves. Obviously, there is heavy cemetery traffic on that day. The major ritual involves burning (fake) money for the deceased to use in the afterlife, but food offerings are also made. The food is not burned - it is recovered and eaten by normal living people, though I don't know whether people eat in the cemetery. The general idea of bringing food to the cemetery so that a dead relative can be part of the meal too, though, seems fairly natural to me. When you want to spend time with a dead person, where would you go to do that?
  - 5y ago
iammisc 5y ago
In San Jose, this is common at the catholic cemeteries still
okal 5y ago
I don't know if it's common, but I did this a couple of times at war memorial cemeteries in different parts of Kenya when I was younger. They can be some of the most accessible, well maintained, open green spaces in some areas.
sroussey 5y ago
We watch movies at them in LA
- 7thaccount 5y ago
  I don't believe in ghosts, but I imagine if they did exist they would be so happy to have people having a great time and watching movies nearby.
- cbsks 5y ago
  I recently went to a concert there! https://hollywoodforever.com/ https://hollywoodforever.com/ I was expecting the concert to be held away from the graves, but no, there were tombstones directly behind the audience. It was a little unnerving.
creinhardt 5y ago
I like it, sometimes, maybe, death could be a celebration of life?
Borrible 5y ago
Soon, it's Day of the Dead in Mexico. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dead https://www.medicaldaily.com/dia-de-los-muertos-or-day-dead-helps-families-cope-grief-through-sugar-skulls-food-359774 https://www.medicaldaily.com/dia-de-los-muertos-or-day-dead-... Memento mori.
brabel 5y ago
This is still common in Sweden, as cemiteries often surround churches and the beautiful parks around them.
- LeonidasXIV 5y ago
  Also very popular in Denmark, not uncommon to see groups of people socialize in cementaries. Also, cycle routes through the cementaries can be quite nice.
INTPenis 5y ago
Not many picknics going on anymore because they're cramped but we do have some cemeteries here in Sweden that see a lot of foot traffic. And at least one here in Malmö is by the water so people do regularly eat lunch on a bench near the canal with the tombstones behind them. Well maintained it's just a park with tombstones and areas you don't step on out of respect.
nanomonkey 5y ago
The cemetery in Oakland was so popular during the pandemic they had to close it down to public use.
EdwardDiego 5y ago
I've had some lovely picnics in beautiful cemeteries in Germany, they're often walled, which dramatically reduces traffic noise, and resemble botanical gardens with their mixture of trees and flowering shrubs, in contrast to the "lawn with headstones" I'm familiar with in New Zealand. They're real sanctuaries in busy cities.
- camillomiller 5y ago
  Confirmed. In Berlin we have some really beautiful ones. If you want to read a book in a park in perfect quiet they’re the right place.
  - EdwardDiego 5y ago
    The one right behind the Berlin Wall memorial was one of the ones I had in mind, absolutely gorgeous.
  - lm28469 5y ago
    If you're into that kind of stuff I'd recommend taking the train to Potsdam and visit the suedwestkirchhof (easily accessible by bus), it's especially nice in winter when it snows
- saiya-jin 5y ago
  We have one here in Geneva, Suisse (Cimetiere des rois, aka Cemetery of kings), used to work very close to it. Few majestic tombstones of rather important figures (I don't think kings per se, swiss don't have those), spread apart in lush greenery, walled from noise. People go there sit on benches, eat their lunch and forget about hectic lives for a minute or two.
matsemann 5y ago
In Norway it's a shift now, to use cemeteries more. It's a hot topic for some. Young people see it as the only green lungs left untouched in the cities, and want to use them. Some people feel it's disrespectful, others like that the areas get used.
oytis 5y ago
Germany has peculiar relationships with cemeteries too. Treating a cemetery as a park to have a walk in is just normal. I have once seen a playground inside a cemetery, and a banner kindly asking not to use gravestones for climbing.
pjc50 5y ago
Nowadays it's mostly just goths, at least in the UK. Although Edinburgh has managed to turn its cemeteries into tourist attractions. Partly serious historical (Hume), partly morbid-fantastic (ghost tours), part Harry Potter. Plus the only US Civil War memorial outside the US, an incongruous statue of Lincoln overlooking the city from Calton Hill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Calton_Burial_Ground#/media/File:The_Emancipation_Monument,_Edinburgh_-_geograph.org.uk_-_138919.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Calton_Burial_Ground#/medi... Look out for the distinctive pink porphyry monuments; as a hard and acid-resistant stone, many of these are in perfect condition despite being a century or more old.
- gpderetta 5y ago
  There is a cemetery near my house in London. Before I moved, I used to routinely go through it every day to get to the tube station on the other side. There is also an hospital nearby and it was common, on sunny days, to see doctors and nurses having their lunch on the grass there.
wyclif 5y ago
Filipinos still do it! Usually during their version of Día de los Muertos (Day of the Dead) which we in the west call All Saints Day and they call Araw ng mga Yumao.
- cafard 5y ago
  Pedantry: Día de los Muertos is All Souls Day, November 2, the day after All Saints.
  - randdusing 5y ago
    Are you sure about that? My Mexican relatives celebrate it on November 1st.
    - wyclif 5y ago
      People in Spanish-colonized countries routinely celebrate it November 1st-2nd.
cafard 5y ago
Congressional Cemetery in Washington, DC, allow or used to allow people to pay a monthly or annual fee that gave them the right to bring their dogs into it. I gather from someone I worked with that the dogs would run off-leash and play as in a dog park. I'm sure that the expectation was that owners would clean up after their dogs, and I'm sure that my co-worker did/does.
gambiting 5y ago
I remember the scene in the TV show "How I met your mother" where one of the main characters, Marshall, goes to visit his dad's grave with a BBQ and some beers to watch a game(of football?) with his dad like they always used to. I thought it was extremely unusual but actually, kind of lovely. Where I come from(Poland) cemetaries are almost sacred, instead of halloween we celebrate "wszystkich świętych"(all saints day) where everyone does the annual pilgrimage to the graves of their families to pay their respects. At the end of the night every cemetery is glowing with candles, all graves are adorned with flowers and other decorations it's all very solemn and sirious - I think the idea of a "picnic" at a cemetery would be seen as very disrespectful here - but it's still very interesting.
- vlovich123 5y ago
  That sounds very similar to the Spanish Día de los Muertos.
  - enriquto 5y ago
    I lived for 30 years in what you would call Spain and never heard about that.
    - lelandfe 5y ago
      It’s Mexican - although perhaps it’s observed by Mexicans living abroad as well? I think the commenter just meant the name was in Spanish, though
      - vlovich123 5y ago
        I thought it extended beyond Mexico and existed in most Spanish-speaking/latin countries but this isn’t my culture so I’m much less familiar with the details.
  - mejutoco 5y ago
    In Spain we call it el día de todos los santos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Saints%27_Day#Spain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Saints%27_Day#Spain
robaato 5y ago
St Mary's Kew (West London) has a lovely small graveyard and overlooks the cricket ground. They also do great afternoon teas, and (respectful) consumption of tea and cakes in the graveyard (while watching the cricket) is welcome. I'd be very happy for my grave to be there! https://kcctrial.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/img_8303.jpg https://kcctrial.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/img_8303.jpg
NikolaeVarius 5y ago
I've always thought that much of modern American(western?) culture is way too offput by graveyards. I've always like Heideggers thoughts on this subject. > In a lecture in 1961, when he was asked how we might recover authenticity, Heidegger replied, in quite short fashion, that we should simply aim to spend more time in graveyards.
Toutouxc 5y ago
I wish this was a thing again. I spent most of my childhood living at a cemetery (it was my dad's side job to mow the lawns, open and close the gates, keep the water running etc., and we lived in a house right at the gate) and I always felt like the place wasn't dead because of the people buried there, but because we made it that way. We transformed what was essentially a park with tombstones reminding us of our loved ones into a weird, ominous, liminal space.
sharadov 5y ago
I had a cemetery close to where I lived in India. In the summer months, to get respite from the oppressive heat, people from a nearby slum would sleep on the graves at night. I was a kid at that time and would find this freaky cool!
sharadov 5y ago
Why not pop-up restaurants or glamping in the graveyard? Spooky experience this Halloween anyone?

52 points by samclemens 5y ago

In Copenhagen, Denmark the municipality is actively encouraging recreational use of the cities cemeteries. As they write "The cemetery is also for the living". Everything else seems like a waste of space imo. Respect and leisure ain't orthogonal. https://www.kk.dk/kirkegaarde https://www.kk.dk/kirkegaarde

beckman466 5y ago
love that. yes some are making it out to be something disrespectful somehow. i also would prefer if cemeteries were converted to parks to be green spaces available to all. spots in cemeteries are also usually only affordable for the propertied class too. for many in the working class they're not viable. do our cities really need to reserve and block off sizable physical spaces for decades, when we have a housing crisis in most cities around the world? i am all for beautiful ceremonies and the like, but the use of excessive physical space in cities seems outdated. consider also that we now have photos, video and other digital media to help us remember loved ones and keep them alive in our memory.
- 7thaccount 5y ago
  I have two enormous cemeteries on either side of my neighborhood. However where I live, just going for a walk there would be considered disrespectful. It's outdated in my opinion. Cemeteries are a terrible waste of space and horrible for the environment too. Like you said, go ahead and have a beautiful ceremony. I've told my wife to cremate me or turn me into one of those tree things that people are talking about now. I don't want to be covered in all the chemicals and be used to destroy the planet. If you have an existing cemetery, at least convert it into a dual use space like the one in Boston with the fish ponds and maybe also put a playground up. There aren't nearly enough of those for parents of young children. Especially during a pandemic when you want to not cram 100 kids in a fairly small space.
  - wruza 5y ago
    Cremation also makes a significant carbon footprint, afaik. Best eco way to get rid of the body is to drop it to the sea floor.
    - 7thaccount 5y ago
      I've heard that too. Running the furnace likely consumes a fair amount of electricity, but I think that's a non problem with high renewables. Just don't run during peak. Is the carbon footprint that bad from the conversation to ashes process? If so, yeah, maybe ocean is best.
    - WorldMaker 5y ago
      I've heard we've made great advancements in human composting. Specifically composting combined with tree planting sounds like a great use of public spaces to rebuild some of our forest commons as opposed to traditional cemeteries.
- jerf 5y ago
  "yes some are making it out to be something disrespectful somehow." "Some" are probably ignorant of the fact that cemeteries have been routinely moved in Western societies for centuries. It's not a new thing, and there are cultural procedures for doing it respectfully. It is also in a different sense a tradition to argue about who is going to pay for those procedures since they aren't the cheapest, but that's a separate matter. So, your question can be given a concrete answer: No, we aren't stuck with cemeteries forever in the place they were plopped down decades ago. That is a present reality, not something we have to aspire to.

aazaa 5y ago

> One of the reasons why eating in cemeteries become a “fad,” as some reporters called it, was that epidemics were raging across the country: Yellow fever and cholera flourished, children passed away before turning 10, women died during childbirth. Death was a constant visitor for many families, and in cemeteries, people could “talk” and break bread with family and friends, both living and deceased. It's fascinating that the article also notes that the older generation at the time (late 19th century) viewed the fad with disgust: > But plenty of Americans believed that picnics in local cemeteries were a “gruesome festivity.” This critique, notably from older generations, didn’t stop young adults from meeting up in graveyards. Instead it led to debate over proper conduct. This was a phenomenon driven by the times. Lots of deaths mean you spend a lot more time at the cemetery. Cemeteries started to lose their association with loss/decay and gained more of an association with remembrance. There's quite a lot on this topic, like this article, which notes that another reason for the pull of cemeteries at that time was the Civil War: > ... Beginning in the late 1800s, cemeteries were prime picnic spots. Remember, in the aftermath of the bloody Civil War and in an age of cholera and yellow fever, cities created large new cemeteries to accommodate the dead. Family farms or sacred churchyards were no longer the only spots for burial grounds. These new-age cemeteries looked and functioned more like public parks than stark, spooky graveyards. They featured professional landscaping, winding paths, ponds, and pavilions. https://connectingdirectors.com/55122-cemetery-picnics https://connectingdirectors.com/55122-cemetery-picnics

thaumasiotes 5y ago
There is a Chinese holiday, Qingming ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qingming_Festival https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qingming_Festival ), devoted to caring for ancestors' graves. Obviously, there is heavy cemetery traffic on that day. The major ritual involves burning (fake) money for the deceased to use in the afterlife, but food offerings are also made. The food is not burned - it is recovered and eaten by normal living people, though I don't know whether people eat in the cemetery. The general idea of bringing food to the cemetery so that a dead relative can be part of the meal too, though, seems fairly natural to me. When you want to spend time with a dead person, where would you go to do that?
- 5y ago

iammisc 5y ago

In San Jose, this is common at the catholic cemeteries still

okal 5y ago

I don't know if it's common, but I did this a couple of times at war memorial cemeteries in different parts of Kenya when I was younger. They can be some of the most accessible, well maintained, open green spaces in some areas.

sroussey 5y ago

We watch movies at them in LA

7thaccount 5y ago
I don't believe in ghosts, but I imagine if they did exist they would be so happy to have people having a great time and watching movies nearby.
cbsks 5y ago
I recently went to a concert there! https://hollywoodforever.com/ https://hollywoodforever.com/ I was expecting the concert to be held away from the graves, but no, there were tombstones directly behind the audience. It was a little unnerving.

creinhardt 5y ago

I like it, sometimes, maybe, death could be a celebration of life?

Borrible 5y ago

Soon, it's Day of the Dead in Mexico. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Dead https://www.medicaldaily.com/dia-de-los-muertos-or-day-dead-helps-families-cope-grief-through-sugar-skulls-food-359774 https://www.medicaldaily.com/dia-de-los-muertos-or-day-dead-... Memento mori.

brabel 5y ago

This is still common in Sweden, as cemiteries often surround churches and the beautiful parks around them.

LeonidasXIV 5y ago
Also very popular in Denmark, not uncommon to see groups of people socialize in cementaries. Also, cycle routes through the cementaries can be quite nice.

INTPenis 5y ago

Not many picknics going on anymore because they're cramped but we do have some cemeteries here in Sweden that see a lot of foot traffic. And at least one here in Malmö is by the water so people do regularly eat lunch on a bench near the canal with the tombstones behind them. Well maintained it's just a park with tombstones and areas you don't step on out of respect.

nanomonkey 5y ago

The cemetery in Oakland was so popular during the pandemic they had to close it down to public use.

EdwardDiego 5y ago

I've had some lovely picnics in beautiful cemeteries in Germany, they're often walled, which dramatically reduces traffic noise, and resemble botanical gardens with their mixture of trees and flowering shrubs, in contrast to the "lawn with headstones" I'm familiar with in New Zealand. They're real sanctuaries in busy cities.

camillomiller 5y ago
Confirmed. In Berlin we have some really beautiful ones. If you want to read a book in a park in perfect quiet they’re the right place.
- EdwardDiego 5y ago
  The one right behind the Berlin Wall memorial was one of the ones I had in mind, absolutely gorgeous.
- lm28469 5y ago
  If you're into that kind of stuff I'd recommend taking the train to Potsdam and visit the suedwestkirchhof (easily accessible by bus), it's especially nice in winter when it snows
saiya-jin 5y ago
We have one here in Geneva, Suisse (Cimetiere des rois, aka Cemetery of kings), used to work very close to it. Few majestic tombstones of rather important figures (I don't think kings per se, swiss don't have those), spread apart in lush greenery, walled from noise. People go there sit on benches, eat their lunch and forget about hectic lives for a minute or two.

matsemann 5y ago

In Norway it's a shift now, to use cemeteries more. It's a hot topic for some. Young people see it as the only green lungs left untouched in the cities, and want to use them. Some people feel it's disrespectful, others like that the areas get used.

oytis 5y ago

Germany has peculiar relationships with cemeteries too. Treating a cemetery as a park to have a walk in is just normal. I have once seen a playground inside a cemetery, and a banner kindly asking not to use gravestones for climbing.

pjc50 5y ago

Nowadays it's mostly just goths, at least in the UK. Although Edinburgh has managed to turn its cemeteries into tourist attractions. Partly serious historical (Hume), partly morbid-fantastic (ghost tours), part Harry Potter. Plus the only US Civil War memorial outside the US, an incongruous statue of Lincoln overlooking the city from Calton Hill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Calton_Burial_Ground#/media/File:The_Emancipation_Monument,_Edinburgh_-_geograph.org.uk_-_138919.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Calton_Burial_Ground#/medi... Look out for the distinctive pink porphyry monuments; as a hard and acid-resistant stone, many of these are in perfect condition despite being a century or more old.

gpderetta 5y ago
There is a cemetery near my house in London. Before I moved, I used to routinely go through it every day to get to the tube station on the other side. There is also an hospital nearby and it was common, on sunny days, to see doctors and nurses having their lunch on the grass there.

wyclif 5y ago

Filipinos still do it! Usually during their version of Día de los Muertos (Day of the Dead) which we in the west call All Saints Day and they call Araw ng mga Yumao.

cafard 5y ago
Pedantry: Día de los Muertos is All Souls Day, November 2, the day after All Saints.
- randdusing 5y ago
  Are you sure about that? My Mexican relatives celebrate it on November 1st.
  - wyclif 5y ago
    People in Spanish-colonized countries routinely celebrate it November 1st-2nd.

cafard 5y ago

Congressional Cemetery in Washington, DC, allow or used to allow people to pay a monthly or annual fee that gave them the right to bring their dogs into it. I gather from someone I worked with that the dogs would run off-leash and play as in a dog park. I'm sure that the expectation was that owners would clean up after their dogs, and I'm sure that my co-worker did/does.

gambiting 5y ago

I remember the scene in the TV show "How I met your mother" where one of the main characters, Marshall, goes to visit his dad's grave with a BBQ and some beers to watch a game(of football?) with his dad like they always used to. I thought it was extremely unusual but actually, kind of lovely. Where I come from(Poland) cemetaries are almost sacred, instead of halloween we celebrate "wszystkich świętych"(all saints day) where everyone does the annual pilgrimage to the graves of their families to pay their respects. At the end of the night every cemetery is glowing with candles, all graves are adorned with flowers and other decorations it's all very solemn and sirious - I think the idea of a "picnic" at a cemetery would be seen as very disrespectful here - but it's still very interesting.

vlovich123 5y ago
That sounds very similar to the Spanish Día de los Muertos.
- enriquto 5y ago
  I lived for 30 years in what you would call Spain and never heard about that.
  - lelandfe 5y ago
    It’s Mexican - although perhaps it’s observed by Mexicans living abroad as well? I think the commenter just meant the name was in Spanish, though
    - vlovich123 5y ago
      I thought it extended beyond Mexico and existed in most Spanish-speaking/latin countries but this isn’t my culture so I’m much less familiar with the details.
- mejutoco 5y ago
  In Spain we call it el día de todos los santos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Saints%27_Day#Spain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Saints%27_Day#Spain

robaato 5y ago

St Mary's Kew (West London) has a lovely small graveyard and overlooks the cricket ground. They also do great afternoon teas, and (respectful) consumption of tea and cakes in the graveyard (while watching the cricket) is welcome. I'd be very happy for my grave to be there! https://kcctrial.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/img_8303.jpg https://kcctrial.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/img_8303.jpg

NikolaeVarius 5y ago

I've always thought that much of modern American(western?) culture is way too offput by graveyards. I've always like Heideggers thoughts on this subject. > In a lecture in 1961, when he was asked how we might recover authenticity, Heidegger replied, in quite short fashion, that we should simply aim to spend more time in graveyards.

Toutouxc 5y ago

I wish this was a thing again. I spent most of my childhood living at a cemetery (it was my dad's side job to mow the lawns, open and close the gates, keep the water running etc., and we lived in a house right at the gate) and I always felt like the place wasn't dead because of the people buried there, but because we made it that way. We transformed what was essentially a park with tombstones reminding us of our loved ones into a weird, ominous, liminal space.

sharadov 5y ago

I had a cemetery close to where I lived in India. In the summer months, to get respite from the oppressive heat, people from a nearby slum would sleep on the graves at night. I was a kid at that time and would find this freaky cool!

sharadov 5y ago

Why not pop-up restaurants or glamping in the graveyard? Spooky experience this Halloween anyone?